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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    Say they add another 26 channels 10 of which to be in HD but they aren't the Viacom channels would that make you happy? The key in that question is is it the amount of content or is it the specific content you're after. I have a feeling DirecTV could find other channels that would actually have overall more new programming that people would probably like to fill the void.
     
  2. tulanejosh

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    Maybe they are taking a day off. Maybe they've been instructed to go to radio silence because someting is imminent and they dont want to anger the natives again.

    At my company - the people that man our twitter account are basically sales reps that have special training on how to deal with angry customers that no longer have the fear of actually saying something hurtful to a real person (i.e. people are always tougher behind an anonymous internet screename). they dont know anything special.
     
  3. BattleScott

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  4. inkahauts

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    If accurate I think it's funny they don't want to let DirecTV stream their channel even though they offer their shows themselves for free through their own portal. Fools.

    Excellent article and points out some interesting things going on.

    As I have said before I think some of the providers need to shrink down the number channels they have and repeat things less often that would actually increase their value from a subscription but the question is does that increase offset the advertising revenue they lose by not having as many channels.
     
  5. inkahauts

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    And Viacom wants money for it and DirecTV says it shouldn't cost them anything more. DirecTV does not pay them for each box that's able to receive the programming they only pay them for every account that's able to receive programming so why should this be any different?
     
  6. tulanejosh

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    Theoretically, that would work. You're reading too much into this though. I'm not unhappy at the moment beyond the irritation that this thing has dragged out. personally, I'm looking forward to getting these channels back. I want these channels back far more than i want a $3/month discount or any alternative programming.
     
  7. inkahauts

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    I and simply wondering if Viacom doesn't come to terms with DirecTV and DirecTV were to add a bunch of other channels that would possibly make up for the Viacom channels how many subscribers do we think Direct TV would actually lose? I think Viacom has a lot more to lose than DirecTV in all of this in more ways than one.
     
  8. tulanejosh

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    I think it would depend on the channels. And i also dont think that people are as loyal to D* as we all might like to think. This forum is not representative in so many ways. A lot of people don't understand why the channels are gone, don't really care and just want to watch Spongebob or whatever else.
     
  9. Carl Spock

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    Nice article in the New York Times:

    Denied Nickelodeon, DirecTV’s Youngest Clients Find Substitutes

    Later on in the story:
     
  10. 996911

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    Tobacco...
    Exactly how it is in our household. We were in full panic mode when Nick Jr. went off the air. But a funny thing happened along that way......My 4 year old asks for Disney Junior now every morning. He doesn't even care now that Nick Jr. is gone. He even says "thank you Daddy for my new Disney Junior channel!". Gotta love the young mind.

    As adults, we do miss Comedy Central since we like the Daily Show but we don't have to have it.
     
  11. David MacLeod

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    I've been on hold twice in 2 days. I don't standby with a phone to my ear.
    will try again tomorrow.
     
  12. Mark Holtz

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    How long did you hold until you gave up?
     
  13. falkor

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    Our society is I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT IT ! This is sad . I watched some Viacom channels but , I can survive without them . Anyone willing to switch carriers over this are not people I would want subscribing through me anyway . Directtv should walk . The difference here is that Direct can survive EASILY without Viacom . Viacom can survive but , they will hurt the whole time . They lose viewers . Loss of viewers equates to lower ratings on channels . Lower ratings equates to less advertising money . Less advertising money equates to lower stock prices . Lower stock prices equates to less money to Viacom . Blah . Viacom will hurt badly . Direct should demand , as Viacom has done , whatever they want and tell Viacom it matters not what they want . Direct not carrying Viacom is slowly killing Viacom . NOT the other way around . Viacom almost has to have Direct in order to survive . They can survive without them but , very little profit .
     
  14. Mark Holtz

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    Perhaps, after this dispute, both companies can adopt better customer-facing messaging. Perhaps take it down from, "OMG! DirecTV is killing Spongebob Squarepants" and along the lines of, "Pardon the interruption of you favorite programs, but we can't agree on the price. Thank you for your patience."

    It's a sad state of affairs when people pay attention to a 10 second blipvert, but don't want to hear the whole story.
     
  15. p010ne

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    Channels are bright again!
     
  16. Mark Holtz

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    Beyond the obvious basic human needs, I place my job, my car, Internet access, and cell phone at the top of my list. DirecTV is around the level of "gee, it's nice to have, can we do without?", and no channels scream "must watch" for my anymore.
     
  17. sigma1914

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    Yet, you actively participate in a satellite TV forum.
     
  18. darkpowrjd

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    I'm trying to get an answer on their Facebook page about if they would add EPIX if the price was fair to them, or if they just don't want it on their service period. I don't know why they don't address that. Perhaps they don't want EPIX (if Viacom is telling the truth about trying everything in the book to get DTV to say yes to this channel, then it's safe to say that DTV has a creative issue with EPIX), and they remember the G4 fallout, so they don't want people to think that DTV is keeping their customers from content that they might actually want (if the price was right, I mean).

    I thing 500 million for an unproven channel IS VERY steep, but I think it should be given a chance TO prove itself on the lineup. Thing is, I don't understand why DTV doesn't address the possibility that they don't have any interest in the channel.

    By the way, does anyone else see that many of the DirecTV answers to people on FB are more or less form answers? I've seen the same answer, almost word for word, given to a variety of questions.
     
  19. mnassour

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    No.

    Someone said "you can't negotiate in public." This means they're finally considering serious negotiations. That doesn't mean stuff will be back tomorrow, Saturday, Sunday, or in 2023. But it does mean they're talking.

    No one had to say "cut the crap" at DirecTV. This is a very large corporation that knows what it is doing. If it didn't, it would be Dish.
     
  20. Mark Holtz

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    Not as actively as I used to, and, if you haven't gathered by the user number, I've been around for a long long time. Anyone remember the Dish Network 501 receiver? I had one of those for two years.
     

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