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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. darkpowrjd

    darkpowrjd Mentor

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    The problem is coming from what Viacom has claimed, though, and DTV has yet to respond to it. http://blog.viacom.com/2012/07/no-deal-in-sight-viacom-compromise-proposals-fail-to-sway-directv/

    Viacom claimed that they have tried to do certain things to get them to accept EPIX. I wish DTV would address this in detail so we would know one way or another. Is it the price? The channel itself? Do they just not want it? If Viacom's take is accurate, then what the hell is the problem with the channel besides the price that DTV is seeing here?

    Of course, until DTV responds to this (which I'm surprised they haven't yet given that the two sides haven't stopped taking pot shots at each other since this began...as if the insults and calls to switch help move things along), we will be left with a very important question needing a clear answer that's being completely ignored.
     
  2. tonyd79

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    Do we put up a festivus pole when the channels come back?
     
  3. tonyd79

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    It is the bottom line price plus the amenities. No problems with Epix itself but how it was packaged and priced.
     
  4. Church AV Guy

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    Less than or greater then the number of DISH subscribers who left over the AMC channel cutoff? I suspect that Viacom will request the same terms with all the service providers from now on, so DirecTV won't be alone. They are merely first. The only thing that has actually been said is the number who have left over this issue was less than predicted. DirecTV could live with the predicted number, so they are likely ver happy. Viacom has lost significant ratings though, and I suspect that they are very UNhappy indeed.

    I greatly HOPE it means that an agreement is near. When they quit talking to us and start talking to each other, it is a good sign.

    Any disclosure of the terms being discussed endangers the whole negotiating process. I have been very surprised at the specifics that have been published so far by both sides. Usually this kind of disclosure spells doom for any agreement as the terms and conditions of these negotiations are always confidential. the less said, the better (for an agreement).
     
  5. Araxen

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    I hope Directv does add Epix and I hope Viacom becomes reasonable in fee's for the channel.
     
  6. leadout_kv

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    I thought D* has responded to Viacom's EPIX proposals. Its pretty simple from D*'s perspective.

    Viacom wants EPIX bundled, D* wants EPIX a-la-cart.

    As a consumer I like the option of choosing (a-la-cart style). If I don't want EPIX than I don't pay for it. Viacom wants EPIX bundled so D* is forced to charge customers more even if we don't want EPIX.

    Pretty simple to understand...not simple to settle on.
     
  7. inkahauts

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    On the contrary my point is people have no loyalty. It's not about being loyal to DirecTV it's about lack of loyalty to Viacom. If DirecTV can offer up a good enough substitute most won't want to go through the frustration of changing providers just because of the Viacom channels.
     
  8. Taltizer

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    I though Epix had been offered to Directv in different ways just not bundled and they were rejecting those options also.They just dont want Epix at all.Thats whats being said on the boards here.
     
  9. inkahauts

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    We have no business knowing the details IMHO. All that could do is hurt their negotiators and that's bad form.
     
  10. tonyd79

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    Uh. No.
     
  11. inkahauts

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    That's not what the insiders reporting in some of the trade magazines have been saying though. I can believe in them more than I do all of us randomly guessing here on the forums.
     
  12. tonyd79

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    I'm not guessing.
     
  13. dxtrfn80

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    No more SpongeBob ever again on DTV.
     
  14. cjrleimer

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    Its been relatively quiet on both ends Viacom and D*. I think they are negotiating non stop or taking a break as the urgency isnt important right now.
     
  15. studechip

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    Then you must have specific insider knowledge of what is being discussed, yes?
     
  16. tulanejosh

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    Good theory. But in reality - I don't think there are really very many substitutes that have the reach and national appeal of these channels, certainly not ones that directv doesn't already offer.
     
  17. Taltizer

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    I hear you unless you are sitting there at the table making the deal your self you cant say one way or the other what is really happening.Anyone can get on these message boards and say they know for a fact they exactlly know whats going on behind the scenes but unless they are the deal makers the are guessing just as much as we are.None of us know.NONE!.
     
  18. tonyd79

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    On some message boards, yes.
     
  19. SPACEMAKER

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    From D* Twitter feed:

    "DIRECTV continued to speak with Viacom several times today but have yet to finalize an agreement. We will stay on it through the night."
     
  20. tonyd79

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    Usually don't work through the night unless both sides want to come to agreement and they are close.

    We will see.
     

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