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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Jul 10, 2012 #481 of 3058
    Santi360HD

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    channel pull, channel dark by whichever side still winds up in absence!! no matter how you slice it.. no politically correct way to explain an absence of broadcasts.
     
  2. Jul 10, 2012 #482 of 3058
    Alan Gordon

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    The increase in original programming on TV Land has me watching them more than I did a few years ago... not that I disliked the older syndicated programming, but I watch it more consistently now.

    Until "Teen Wolf", "Awkward." and "Death Valley" premiered last year (the latter now cancelled), I hadn't watched MTV in YEARS!!

    I enjoy JS and SC from time to time on Comedy Central, but "Futurama" is the only thing I watch religiously.

    I could continue, but I think you get the picture...

    Different strokes for different folks...

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  3. Jul 10, 2012 #483 of 3058
    Sea bass

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    Ohhh I hope the Viacom channels go dark! Think of the HD bandwidth! Maybe we can ge t Fuse HD! Stick to your guns Directv!
     
  4. Jul 10, 2012 #484 of 3058
    Jammasterd

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    I don't want to pay $5 for the HD Extra pack, but I like Palladia.

    If Palladia is pulled tonight, I could save $5!
     
  5. Jul 10, 2012 #485 of 3058
    tulanejosh

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    the point of my comment is not to support one side or another, but to point out that people blindly believe whatever directv tells them so long as they use the key words "bill", "increase", and "you".

    additonally - you don't even know what directv is really asking for - how do you know they didn't ask for HD feeds for the remaining viacom channels, new channels that directv doesn't yet carry (every consider that's where the 26 comes from even though directv only carries 17), and TV everywhere rights? How do you know they didn't ask for additional stuff and viacom said "ok, with all that and your normal increase - that comes to 30%".
     
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    We know that didn't happen because had DirecTV asked for all that the negotiations would have blown up weeks ago, the two sides would have cooled off, then come back to the table this week and gotten a deal done for just TV rights. We would never have known anything was amiss.

    No one pulls 17 channels off the birds over TV Everywhere....c'mon. :lol:

    Anyway, at this moment we have 42 minutes to go. If the channels stay on past 11, I'm betting they won't go off.
     
  7. Jul 10, 2012 #487 of 3058
    android.cphone

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    I dont have twitter account what the latest direct tv saying?
     
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    tulanejosh

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    you don't know that just i don't know it either. point is - this is probably more complicated that it appears. Both side are revealing only the information that puts them in the best light. If you believe that this is all about getting the exact same deal for 30% more, you're in luck because i have the 360 bridge for sale and the COA city council told me you can put a toll on it so long as the salamanders approve.
     
  9. Jul 10, 2012 #489 of 3058
    Santi360HD

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    they're just responding to alot of people's tweets...stating they're working hard to keep the channels on...nothing new
    they officially corrected the channel count ...its 17 channels in peril
     
  10. Jul 10, 2012 #490 of 3058
    ffoooo54

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    No things would not cost more money IF governments did not need inflation to pay off old debts, because debts are only listed at a certain dollar amount, so if you inflate the cost things cost now - then you can pay old debt faster - but at same time you destroy the economy.

    also DIRECTV & VIACOM are two sides of the same coin, dishonest crooks, Viacom intimating kids to tell parents to complain to DIRECTV and DIRECTV claiming VIACOM wants a certain increase but never providing proof of it.
     
  11. Jul 10, 2012 #491 of 3058
    android.cphone

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    Well we will find out something in about 35 mins
     
  12. Jul 10, 2012 #492 of 3058
    zimm7778

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    Here's my two cents as to why. Most people here who think rationally know higher programming cost means a higher bill. That's simple economics. However, I think a lot of the reason you see people take Directv's side is because they built up such goodwill over many years. They would get agreements signed and by and large they would happen with no fuss whatsoever. There may have been 1 or 2 but that was over many years. Meanwhile there were other providers constantly crying about wanting "fair rates" and holding down costs for consumers being why this channel couldn't be added or that one was pulled. All the while their "fair rates" when factoring in everything from programming to equipment was about the same as Directv. Do I think some of this goodwill has begun to fade due to the consistency of these disputes now? Possibly. But I know when I was with Brighthouse I never faulted the network because I knew TW/BH's history of negotiating. It's the reputations they've earned. That's why I think people are so willing to give them a pass so often.
     
  13. Jul 10, 2012 #493 of 3058
    skaman74

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    I could care less in they drop those channels. All they play is absolute TV trash. MTV is illiterate, VH1 is just as retarded and the list goes on. GOOD BY TRASH TV...YOU WILL NOT BE MISSED!
     
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    tulanejosh

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    sure that's one driver - but so is good old supply and demand. it's why my grandfather paid 25 cents a gallon for gas and i pay $3.02.
     
  15. Jul 10, 2012 #495 of 3058
    tulanejosh

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    why do you pay for TV at all my friend? Downton Abby is free with an antenna on PBS!
     
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    zimm7778

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    Intimidating kids? Give me a break! Oh whatever will they do without 4 kids channels out of what? 8? 10?
     
  18. Jul 10, 2012 #498 of 3058
    cjrleimer

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    Please, quit doing those tactics. Its just something that not everyone agrees on.
     
  19. Jul 10, 2012 #499 of 3058
    Alan Gordon

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    I never stated that DirecTV was doing this out of moral reasons... I do believe their goals are aligned with doing what I feel is right.

    I have no qualms with them asking for more money... I just support DirecTV telling them what they can do with themselves for asking it.


    I apparently missed the part about Viacom being dramatically below the market value set by other distributors

    Where did you see that?!.

    While I could state, that like a fellow poster in this thread, I've actually experienced a DECREASE in income, I'm not a woe is me type of person, so I don't blame Viacom for asking for an increase.

    Actually, no, that's not the way I was taught. I would want a FAIR price for my product.

    Viacom is apparently experiencing a DECLINING viewership, and is expecting a 30% raise for this. They are most likely holding more popular channels hostage unless DirecTV carries others as well...

    ~Alan
     
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    skaman74

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    For NFL Sunday Ticket and ESPN :)
     

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