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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Jul 11, 2012 #821 of 3058

    zimm7778 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 11, 2007
    Most of these 17 channels I have on parental control. Technically I'm already paying without these channels. So, I don't lose. Fight on Directv!
  2. Jul 11, 2012 #822 of 3058

    snappjay Legend

    Jul 16, 2010

  3. Jul 11, 2012 #823 of 3058

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Maybe, maybe not. It could also harden relations. Ask Charlie and the Dish folks (not that I think either side here is as stubborn as Charlie).

    They could have always taken the DIrecTV offer for a month (DirecTV did offer them a raise) while working on the long term deal. Right now, they are getting nothing and probably are having to answer to their advertisers. So, the pressure mounts on them as well.
  4. Jul 11, 2012 #824 of 3058

    xmguy Active Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Middle, TN
    Right now Viacom and DirecTV are like politicians. You know the saying, "the only time they are telling the truth is when they are calling each other liars." Same holds true for this. Both DirecTV and Viacom will say what they want to shuffle the blame to the other party. Like I said last night. Maybe both DirecTV and Viacom both have been watching too many kids shows. Because they are acting that way.
  5. Jul 11, 2012 #825 of 3058

    zimm7778 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 11, 2007
    Fine, tell that to Viacom. Only make those who want them pay for it. See how well that goes over with them. I'm sure Directv would agree to that all day.
  6. Jul 11, 2012 #826 of 3058

    damondlt New Member

    Feb 27, 2006
    Yep I hear that, Exactly why I can't understand why they both can't eat the cost since the both companys are in the + proffit by billions!

    But nope right away Directv says our cost will increase. Just so they can maintain the same profit. Thats BS!
  7. Jul 11, 2012 #827 of 3058

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    This is clearly another deja vu situation of a content provider negotiation process.

    In the end...these often come down to price/costs...and what is clear is that the Viacom request was for a 30% price increase for their programming. That much was publicly stated and not refuted by Viacom.

    Those kinds of enormous price increases are becoming typical from content providers these days...and discussions on the level of this greed have been common throughout the Internet.

    Previous to 2009, new rate increases hovered in the 2-8% ranges....since then...we've seen requests by channel content providers for 10, 20, 30, or more % increases. It's plain and simple greed for their own revenue goals.

    The bottom line is that this pattern will end up resulting in higher prices to satellite and cable TV customers....unless....those delivery channels negotiate hard and hold the line on pricing.

    If not, look for higher monthly bills in the future, or a reduced inventory of channels.

    This pattern of gouging revenue rate increases every time a content agreement comes up at the expense of the consumer will likely end with one of those results.
  8. Jul 11, 2012 #828 of 3058

    keith_benedict Godfather

    Jan 11, 2007

    Sounds like Directv would love to offer these channels in a different package--I think they realize that most of the channels are junk. Frankly, Comedy Central is the only one I'll miss and I can live without it easily.
  9. Jul 11, 2012 #829 of 3058

    xmguy Active Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Middle, TN
    That's the one. I'm like "oh yeah". Always thought he had the coolest bedroom. Could remember his black friend Gerald. But not him, strange. But those were good times. I used to watch GAS (Nick channel) to see those late 80s early 90s classic shows like Legends and Wild and crazy kids. Shows like that.
  10. Jul 11, 2012 #830 of 3058

    damondlt New Member

    Feb 27, 2006
    How many Viacom channels are in Directvs $54 base package.

    I feel bad for these customers right now! They just lost a bunch of their line up.
  11. Jul 11, 2012 #831 of 3058

    Nick Retired, part-time PITA DBSTalk Club

    Apr 23, 2002
    BAM! BOOM! GONE! Welcome to Charlie's world. Whiners gonna whine. Haters gonna hate.

    Welcome to Charlie's world.
  12. Jul 11, 2012 #832 of 3058

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    The loss of Viacom channels in my own personal perspective deserves a big 'ho hum'! While I do watch the Daily Show and Colbert and a very few others, I haven't watched any of them on the big screen in ages. None of the shows they offer are of a kind that really requires much attention, so I just stream them to my computer while I'm also doing other things.

    And even if I find a show I want to watch because the show is good, it is generally on one of the SD channels and D*'s SD is horrid, so I get them streamed also, because streamed SD isn't anything at all like D*'s SD.

    Viacom is in a pickle, a much bigger one that D* imo. Their ad rates are low because for all the 'popularity' of their channels and shows, the advertisers don't see as much value in ad placement on them as they do with other channels. That indicates that not only should Viacom not get an increase, but in reality should be getting a reduction in rates. Of course, that won't happen.

    And unfortunately D* probably won't take this opportunity to bring up some other channels in HD that many of us might well prefer over Viacom's offerings. Instead I think they will eventually make some deal.
  13. Jul 11, 2012 #833 of 3058

    zimm7778 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 11, 2007
    I have Choice which is the next level up and don't have all the channels I'd like to have, I lost 14 or 15. I don't care. But since I don't I guess my opinion doesn't matter since that's not part of your agenda. See, in all this stuff you keep saying you do not take into account some of us have had to lower our package because we can't afford the higher ones and a large part of that is programming cost and a lot of that is for channels we don't want, like in my case everyone of them from Viacom except Spike. And as I said, the others were all blocked anyway. It's no loss to me whatsoever.
  14. Jul 11, 2012 #834 of 3058

    skaman74 AllStar

    Feb 17, 2012
    Looks like there offerin free movies till the deal gets done

  15. Jul 11, 2012 #835 of 3058

    lola521 New Member

    Jul 10, 2012
    I'm getting all the Encore channels, which I don't have normally.
  16. Jul 11, 2012 #836 of 3058

    susanandmark Godfather

    Feb 15, 2007
    If you are not only satisfied but actually HAPPY paying the same amount for fewer options than, congratulations, you're every company's ideal customer! They are currently working on top secret projects to clone you.

    Regardless of what happens with this negotiation--and, like all negotiations, of any stripe, both sides will inevitably concede and eventually meet somewhere near the middle and then claim public victory (more PR money spent) by saying the other side "caved" while they "held firm"--DirecTV will raise our rates on the same old product they always offered, bemoaning "increased programming costs," amongst other issues.

    Because, you know, they are our buddies and they don't want to charge us more. Poor lil' ol' DirecTV, our staunchest allies in this stagnant economy, just has no other option. Ignore that $28 billion in 2011 revenue, a $3 billion year over year increase, behind the curtain for DirecTV; Viacom's 2011 take was a "mere" $15 billion. Oh yeah, DirecTV definitely "has my back." Please!

    DirecTV 2011 Investor Press Release: http://investor.directv.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=649162

    New York Times story on Viacom's Record Breaking Year: http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/viacom-reports-33-percent-gain-in-profits/
  17. Jul 11, 2012 #837 of 3058

    dxtrfn80 Mentor

    Apr 17, 2012
    Maybe DirectTV should offer NFL Sunday Ticket for free if the Viacom dispute is not solved by the start of the NFL season. Then almost every man would be proud of that.
  18. Jul 11, 2012 #838 of 3058

    dtv757 Icon

    Jun 3, 2006
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    zimm7778 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 11, 2007
    They are BLOCKED. I said I don't lose because I'm basically paying the same price for not watching these channels anyway. Do I hope this doesn't ever resolve? Yes. Do I think if it doesn't they should lower the bill? Yes. However, since the Encores are on and I like those I feel like I am now getting more for my money so whatever.
  20. Jul 11, 2012 #840 of 3058

    mridan Godfather

    Nov 15, 2006
    I just got NFL Sunday Ticket for free! I called retention to complain about lost channels. Told retention dept. I would go to AT&T unless I received Sun. ticket at no charge. I just saved $199.95!!!

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