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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Jul 11, 2012 #861 of 3058

    zimm7778 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 11, 2007
    I totally agree with the contract issue and is something else I think the FCC should look into. You obviously sign up because you like the channels they offer, not because you like their logo. There was also a recent thread about the terms of service changing and someone saying they called and didn't agree to them. They canceled their service because of it but charged him an ETF. I think that should be changed as well. If they changed their agreement you should no longer be bound to it.
  2. Jul 11, 2012 #862 of 3058

    susanandmark Godfather

    Feb 15, 2007
    I've never signed a single document from DirecTV and I've been a continuous customer since, I believe, 1996 or '97, always at their highest level of service.
  3. Jul 11, 2012 #863 of 3058

    scott72 Icon

    Feb 17, 2008
    Interesting stuff. My family is in the middle of building a new house, so our D* sub is suspended right now. Feels like a good time to have that status. I won't be re-activating until at least November, so I'm sure this will be resolved by then. I could care less about the channels in question, but the kids like Nick..
  4. Jul 11, 2012 #864 of 3058

    scott72 Icon

    Feb 17, 2008
    Who doesn't require contracts these days? The Cable Co's are doing it, cell phone co's do it, and on and on..It's the norm now..Only thing I don't like about D*'s contract practices, is they're so sneaky about it if you upgrade your equipment. Upgrading equipment should not renew your contract, and you should know ahead of time that it does.
  5. Jul 11, 2012 #865 of 3058
    Sea bass

    Sea bass Icon

    Jun 9, 2005
    Please stop...seriously. Spend some time here, you will see why Sixto is so highly regarded.
  6. Jul 11, 2012 #866 of 3058

    sean67854 AllStar

    May 9, 2007
    If you were really so upset, the ETF wouldn't stop you from leaving. it's prorated and I'm willing to bet that if you switched over to Dish or something they'd give you a sweet deal to offset your ETF.

    Also, I've had DTV for something like 9 years now, and every equipment change or anything else that put me on a new 2yr agreement required me to sign a paper before it took effect.
  7. Jul 11, 2012 #867 of 3058

    iceman2a Icon

    Dec 30, 2005
    Hudson, FL...
    ALL RIGHT! I have been reading thru this thread the last 2 days and getting a good laugh at all the people posting in it for the first time, but this pisses me off:mad:
    I don't care if you are 92, you don't come here and give your oppions about someone who is a "quality" member of this community especialy on an issue as meaningless as this! :nono: So call your care taker and have them help you away from the computer and get back in your rocking chair and let the discussion continue among the people that have been here long enough to have their oppions rspected!

    I am sorry but I could not let it go! :nono:
  8. Jul 11, 2012 #868 of 3058

    Lucid504 Legend

    Mar 26, 2008
    Must be a state law where you live, as ive changed equipment and everything and ive never signed anything for directv
  9. Jul 11, 2012 #869 of 3058

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    Well... there is pro/cons to both types of investments. A satellite costs an ENORMOUS amount of money, is HIGH RISK with the launch, but once it is up and running..... you cover the entire country in one go.

    Cable.... can go town by town, city by city, neighborhood by neighborhood, and decide which areas are financially viable to upgrade, and which are not. Not every city is upgraded to the highest level of technology, and their cost of upgrading can be spread among many years.
  10. Jul 11, 2012 #870 of 3058

    susanandmark Godfather

    Feb 15, 2007
    I quoted revenue, because I couldn't find a quick tally of Viacom's year-total profit (just a single quarter), unlike with DirecTV. I linked to both documents, including DirecTV's which state just under $7 billion in 2011 total profit (why would you quote just one quarter against the total?), which is more like 25% profit, NOT "4 to 6%". Pretty big difference.

    Did you get a 25% raise last year? Or, more comparatively, sell your house for 25% more than its worth? Or do ANYTHING that gained you 25% returns in any way? I know we sure didn't!

    Anyone who believes either of these companies "need" to raise prices, increase profits to "survive" are kidding themselves. Do they want to do those things? Absolutely! Do they "need" to stay afloat? Umm, no.
  11. Jul 11, 2012 #871 of 3058

    skierbri10 Godfather

    Sep 17, 2006
    I just deleted all my series recordings for all Viacom channels. If they come back I will make it a point not to watch any of their channels. The only series I had recording were on Nick Jr, with no commercials anyway. Lol.
  12. Jul 11, 2012 #872 of 3058

    woods_men Cool Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    Typical disrepectful young snot nose type you are. I have no care taker. I chop wood 3 hours a day still, tell me if you can still do that at 92.

    Also as much as people like you and many other not want it to be, we have free speech in this country and it is allowed everywhere, despite you youngsters thinking it has restrictions and should be ended.

    Amount of time means nothing about how much respect some gets, it is about what is said and if its true.
  13. Jul 11, 2012 #873 of 3058

    mridan Godfather

    Nov 15, 2006
    They didn't even flinch.
  14. Jul 11, 2012 #874 of 3058

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    You don't need to sign anything. When you first signed up for DirecTV you agreed to their TOS, and one of those terms is that when you get new equipment, it automatically triggers a new contract of 2 years.

    This is for everyone nationwide. You can verify your current status re: contract by calling DirecTV.

    There are a few ways of getting out of it without a ETF, such as moving to a new location that has a line-of-sight issue. If the installer determines this is the case, you can leave DirecTV without paying the ETF.
  15. Jul 11, 2012 #875 of 3058

    susanandmark Godfather

    Feb 15, 2007
    Again we have never signed a single DirecTV document and the very idea that I "agreed to their TOS" [Terms of Service] when we signed up over a decade ago is laughable, since I bet their current TOS document is unrecognizable as the same one that existed back then ... When they didn't even have contracts and you bought, paid for and kept every piece of equipment you needed.

    Look, as long as consumers not only accept, but DEFEND this type of "service" from companies, they will continue to attempt to enact ever more Draconian restrictions and clauses. I'm always amazed (and not in a good way) when people are not flabbergasted, but actually excited by something that protects nothing but the corporation's bottom line, and absolutely serves no purpose other than profit.

    I'm all for company's making money, but how about doing it by providing a good product, at a reasonable cost with adequate customer service? Allowing people to ACTUALLY choose whether or not to consume their goods/services by their own accord. But, hey, that's just crazy talk!

    Oh and, PS, locking people into paying for something no matter what it is because you say so, is the farthest thing on earth from capitalism.
  16. Jul 11, 2012 #876 of 3058

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    A polite reminder to everyone: It is okay to discuss things, policies, issues, etc. It is NOT okay to discuss each other. Please keep personal attacks OUT OF THIS THREAD.
  17. Jul 11, 2012 #877 of 3058

    snappjay Legend

    Jul 16, 2010
    Don't feed the troll guys :rolleyes:
  18. Jul 11, 2012 #878 of 3058

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2006
    Yay, another troll! Nice first post, flame one of the best attributes this site has.
  19. Jul 11, 2012 #879 of 3058

    Tonedeaf Legend

    Jun 13, 2006
    Sure if you have a hydraulic log splitter. Nothing to it and is done by my 97 year old grandfather. :sure: :lol:
  20. Jul 11, 2012 #880 of 3058

    Santi360HD Icon

    Oct 6, 2008
    New York City
    swanni is to blame for all these NOOB's here !!

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