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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. oldengineer

    oldengineer Godfather

    May 25, 2008
    At 5:24 AM this morning, in a sound bite on CNBC, Mike White stated that Viacom is asking for a 1 billion dollar increase in rates over the next 5 years and that D* is currently paying Viacom 500 million dollars a year.
  2. Shades228

    Shades228 DaBears

    Mar 18, 2008
    It's easy to say it's only $.03/day or $.90 however historically the past price increases have been about $3 a month for base packages. That means this one increase would be 30% of the normal price increase. Other companies who deserve a price increase as well would add into that. So that means the price increases for the bill would be increased to cover the additional costs. Last rate increase DIRECTV stated that programming costs went up 10% overall but only 3% was passed one. It's not hard to see how quickly these can add up given how many different negotiations happen per year.
  3. Kevin872

    Kevin872 Godfather

    Aug 25, 2007
    Just a minor suggestion to change the wording of the headline on the main page:

    I am still assuming this is temporary but it seems to me that the edit in the headline could be taken to mean that Viacom stations are off DIRECTV for good.

    Of course I've been up all night working a 12 hour shift so perhaps I am not the best judge of that. :D

    I know there are those who want the channels back and those who do not. While I agree most of the Viacom programming is garbage, there are definitely shows worth watching (which of course is subject to personal tastes). My kids do like the Nick channels and I like The Daily Show and The Colbert Report on CC. I think the bottom line is that even if this is permanent, I somehow doubt our bills will DROP. May as well get the channels back IMHO. But I do think it should be at a fair price for all involved.

    I do agree though that MTV is worthless all around. :lol:
  4. crashHD

    crashHD Godfather

    Feb 29, 2008
    Seriously? In this metaphor, you're equating viacom's channels to a fine steak? I'd sooner go with swapping cafeteria gruel with a mcdonalds hamburger...the burger sure may be crap, but it's still an improvement.

    MTV being gone, I consider it that DirecTV took out the trash for me. for free. Thanks. Now if they'd just let me dig through that trash can and find my comedy central that wasn't supposed to go out... ;)
  5. Scott Kocourek

    Scott Kocourek Well-Known Member

    Jun 13, 2009
    Sorry guys and gals but I deleted 15 recent posts from this thread that were all political in nature. Please stay on topic so those that want to participate in this thread may do so.

    If you have any questions please PM me and I will explain why I deleted them.

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  6. ffemtreed

    ffemtreed Icon

    Jan 30, 2008
    The last thing we need is congress getting more involved and making even more dumb laws. They need to stay out of the free market and let capitalism rule the day, you know the principle that our great country was founded upon.
  7. TheRatPatrol

    TheRatPatrol Hall Of Fame

    Oct 1, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
  8. mreposter

    mreposter Hall Of Fame

    Jul 29, 2006
    For parents complaining about the trauma caused by the loss of the Nick channels for their kids, now is the time for you to break the cycle of addiction and end the problem once and for all. It starts with a simple life-lesson conversation with your child(ren):

    SpongeBob is dead. Dead. Dead. Dead.
    Flushed down the toilet, dead.
    And so are Dora and Bubble Guppies.
    Dead, dead, dead.
    Dead and gone and never coming back.
    Life's tough, get over it.

    Now go upstairs and read this book on particle physics.

  9. BlackCoffee

    BlackCoffee AllStar

    May 23, 2009
    NO MORE LAWS. Why does everyone need the government to write a law so they never have a bad day? If losing a few TV channels for kids invokes the power of 2 branches of government, what is left to the grown-ups to decide. This is life! All this choice and oppurtunity is great, but the people that built this technology grew up on 3 broadcast networks and black and white TV. It didn't seem to stunt their development. This is entertainment not life saving surgery.
  10. LoweBoy

    LoweBoy Legend

    Sep 15, 2006
    I for one am glad that all those Trash Channels are off the air. Thanks Directv! Maybe this will get my kids off of the bandwagon. My only cartoon days was on Saturdays.
  11. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 24, 2007
    What do you suggest DIRECTV does in the current situation?

  12. BlackCoffee

    BlackCoffee AllStar

    May 23, 2009
    Your approach to this problem is "I get everything, I don't care about a dollar, so it doesn't matter to me." However, VIACOM costs are passed in every package. Every other DTV customer has to pay the bill. Even if we buy the VIACOM argument that 20% of viewing is on their stations, 80% of us are supplementing the 20%. The bundling argument is about choice and control of what we buy.

    If you don't care and just want everything-fine. But the 80% that don't watch the channels may want something different.
  13. BlackCoffee

    BlackCoffee AllStar

    May 23, 2009
    This reminds me of the Auto Workers Unions and car companies. In each 3-5 year renegotiation, one company would be targetted as the lead for the rest of them. If they held strong, it set the stage. The unions would attempt to target the weakest, and the car companies would put forth the best financially to go to battle. Cox knows that if DTV folds, their rate will go up. That is why the threat of switching providers only works to VIACOM's advantage. In the end, the customer will eventually pay.
  14. mhking

    mhking Legend

    Oct 27, 2002
    I love how folks are saying, good riddance to the missing channels. Obviously, some folks were watching them. In my household, my wife was a regular viewer of the movies and series on BET/Centric/TVLand; my 10-year-old daughter loves NickToons and Nickelodeon itself, so yes, it's disappointing. Will they be happy once the channels return? Sure they will.

    Now, conversely, will pay another 30 percent on my bill just to get those channels? Nope. I'll pull the plug outta the wall first.

    Yesterday, my daughter went back over to Netflix and Hulu and began rolling through the content there. The Mrs.? She watched a recorded program.

    It sounds like both sides are being proverbial sticks in the mud. Will they get back to the table? Eventually. They may both need to do some blood letting first. And that may not necessarily be a bad thing.
  15. fleckrj

    fleckrj Icon

    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC
    For now, Davenir is correct - it is a 30% increase in the portion that goes to Viacom. In the long run, though, ghontz1 is also right. If DirecTV gives in to Viacom, then when Scripts, Disney, et. al. come up for renewal, they will want at lest 30%, too. Eventually, it will end up being 30% of the entire bill. Rate increases need to be held to no more than 5%.
  16. mhking

    mhking Legend

    Oct 27, 2002
    Very true. There are folks who will whine and wail and threaten to go to Comcast or Cox or TimeWarner or wherever they can find the channels. And guess what -- those others already have the deals in place so that Viacom will still get the money from those consumers.
  17. vobguy

    vobguy Mentor

    Jun 9, 2009
    Hear hear!
  18. BlackCoffee

    BlackCoffee AllStar

    May 23, 2009
    Your kids are a fine example of why VIACOM's tactic to engage children won't work. With all the options kids have today, they will quickly fill the void with something else. VIACOM should worry about them developing new habits for accessing entertainment.

    In the end, I think VIACOM will lose customers that find other alternatives. Most of these show are reruns anyway. The burning desire to see the same show 15 times in one week will rapidly disappear.
  19. vobguy

    vobguy Mentor

    Jun 9, 2009
    The Viacom/DirecTV dispute was mentioned on the Steve Czaban show on Yahoo Sports Radio (which is played by my local FSR affiliate OTA).
  20. vobguy

    vobguy Mentor

    Jun 9, 2009
    This. When is the last time there was a new Blue's Clues ep? Max & Ruby rarely have new eps (though I understand there was a new season recently).

    My wife picked up a few Blue's Clues DVDs and Max and Ruby DVDs from the used video bin, and those will come in handy if the kids feel the need to watch it.

    However, there is one potential pitfall - my son may rediscover the show "Jake and the Neverland Pirates" on Disney. If I hear the phrase "Yay Hey, No Way" once more ...

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