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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. BlackCoffee

    BlackCoffee AllStar

    May 23, 2009
    I like Phineas and Ferb. Kids with imagination and energy. I think it should be required learning in the schools. Better than most teachers.
  2. fleckrj

    fleckrj Icon

    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC
    It might last until the end of the Olympics, but I feel very confident that the Viacom channels will be back on DirecTV before AMC is back on Dish :D
  3. fleckrj

    fleckrj Icon

    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC

    I would agree if it was not for the fact that these channels pay DirecTV to be shown; thus, they are adding to DirecTV's bottom line and help to keep your bill down.
  4. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    Likely. Their contract probably expires the end of the year, so they are watching this one like a hawk.
  5. HDYankee

    HDYankee AllStar

    Jun 21, 2007
    Long Island, NY
    The only thing that ticks me off on the situation is, DirecTV has added Encore channels to make up for the loss of the Viacom channels but I have Premiere so obviously those that do get nothing. Except I continue to pay over $200 a month for my service.

    It is time for the FCC to force arbitration on the parties for these situations.

    Also while I am complaining, I am sick and tired of most the channels having infomercials in the mornings while I am paying for content.
  6. txtommy

    txtommy Icon

    Dec 30, 2006
    It seems that the entertainment industry still has not received word that this country has a stagnant economy. A 30% increase is ridiculous especially when they are providing mostly old content repeated over and over.
  7. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    People left and right have been saying they called and were offered discounts, ranging from $5 a month (which is a little above market value of the channels lost I would imagine) to $30 a month, and even a free NFL Sunday Ticket.

    Only thing you have to do, is call them and ask.
  8. hallrk

    hallrk Legend

    Apr 15, 2010
    I only watch TVland and VH-1 Classic a little bit from these channels. So it really doesn't bother me that they are off. I hope DTV sticks to their guns and doesn't give that type of increase. Also if these channels are off the air for any prolonged period DTV should be giving their subscribers a price reduction for their monthly service.
  9. raott

    raott Hall Of Fame

    Nov 23, 2005
    Yes, they are adding to the bottom line, however they are not keeping your bills down.
  10. rjf

    rjf Legend

    Mar 9, 2007
    the BS political views obfuscating what should otherwise be a useful thread is the main reason i stopped posting and coming to DBStalk. i'm not interested in lame commentary drawing parallels between the Viacom issue and someone's bent political view. 2 thirds of this thread is utterly useless and off topic. no wonder this forum took such a nosedive. shame, cuz it used to be a great resource. i'm off to find some real into elsewhere.... :hi:
  11. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

    Apr 5, 2006
    34 pages, and the clarity is that this dispute between DirecTV and Viacom is a bummer, but if this is hte way it is, then, at some point someone will realize what is most important, make a decision and move on. I know I have so many alternatives that if it is gone for good, bleh, my kids will find something else to occupy their time. Me and Mrs. Smiddy, we don't really watch any Viacom stuff. :shrug: B-Bye!
  12. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    Many companies, especially some of the bigger ones, have just been sailing onwards as if nothing happened. Instead of adjusting to the economy by scaling down a little, their financial analysts show a loss in advertising (which is to be expected in a bad economy) and are looking to offset the loss of income elsewhere. So they look at the carriers. Not just DirecTV of course, but all of them.

    I recently read (during the Tribune dispute in may) that carriers usually asked for increases of around 5%, basically adjusting their rate to inflation, current market, their programming, etc.... and that it was easy to get to a deal. In the many years I had cable, the first time I heard of a dispute where stations were taken off the air was in 2009, between Time Warner Cable and - yep - Viacom, over the same set of channels (or whatever was available then) they are talking about now. It was also the first time that two companies really started to use mudslinging techniques at each other, at least.... from what I personally have seen. And yep, that was just after a horrible year of 2008. The contracts expired Jan 1st 2009 (not 2010 like I wrote earlier, I was wrong) and I am willing to bet Viacom tried to raise the rates a LOT higher because they lost advertising due to the 2008 crash.

    Now, in THAT dispute, Viacom wanted a 12% increase in rates. Now they want 30%. Seems to me they are getting greedier and greedier and greedier, and I for one still support DirecTV.

    I watch Spike and TVLand and it sucks to lose them, but these ridiculous fee increases need to stop.
  13. jasonblair

    jasonblair Icon

    Sep 5, 2006
    I hope DirecTV gets BBCAmerica just so I can go through this entire forum without every other post being about DirecTV not carrying a channel that 50 people watch! BBCAmerica guys are like Ron Paul supporters... SUPER high profile, in your face, incessant, and very small in number!
  14. ramcm7

    ramcm7 Legend

    Aug 1, 2002
    Time to bring back USSB?
  15. csgo

    csgo Legend

    Oct 15, 2006
    I for one wish we could get to a la carte programming. It would solve most of these problems (just set a price per channel) and many of the useless channels we're forced to pay for will go by the wayside.
  16. jgriffin7

    jgriffin7 Native Texan

    Feb 16, 2007
    Retention. After I told them losing the Viacom channels simply made it to where I was paying too much for the service received, they offered $20/mo off my Choice Xtra Classic package, and $10/mo off my HD service. Both for 12 months. I made sure they noted those discounts were given without any contract or commitment. They did, I hung up, and the $30 credit was showing up online.
  17. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    Viacom's big problem in all this is they are getting hit from both sides right now. Their ratings are down on much of their programming, which results in lower ad revenue, so as has been noted, they come to the well of paying subscribers to see if they can make it up.

    But if the ratings are down and their ad rates are down, which they are, why would anyone want to pay more for it? Answer, they wouldn't and that is the crux of the issue.

    In a perfect business world, D* should be offering less than current rates for what Viacom is providing because they have a devalued product line. Of course, that isn't going to happen, but it should make them think about the actual rate increase that makes business sense.

    And Viacom doesn't seem to notice that it is because they are doing programming on the cheap, that the product has less value. They could do something about that, but there is no indication that improving the product is part of their plan.

    For us as subscribers, we can and will find other things to watch. Yeah we might miss a few things that we now enjoy, but if you have a DVR how far behind are you in watching right now without any of the Viacom stuff? I know I'm so far behind, I could quit recording/watching new stuff right now and it would take at least a couple weeks of hard watching to see everything on my DVR.

    For our kids, especially the younger ones, there are a plethora of other kids shows and channels out there. And for that age group, as long as there is plenty of movement, noise and color, they will watch it. In general, they won't even make it a big deal unless we as parents do.
  18. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    Bite your tongue!! :)

    Who doesn't watch Doctor Who?
  19. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

    Feb 27, 2006
    Maybe Directv will give us some new channels during this mess!
  20. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2006
    They'll still be intact. In fact they should still be working, my Futurama series link recorded black screen last night.

    If you look I'm sure you'll see that they point to channels in the 8000 range. That's where the Viacom channels have been temporarily mapped to so that DirecTV could give us those mix channels. They'll change back when the channels are turned back on just like they changed to the 8000 range.

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