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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Mark Holtz

    Mark Holtz Day Sleeper DBSTalk Club

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    I was paying for them when they were on, and I wasn't watching them anyways.

    I also wrote to my representatives how I am required to pay for channels that I don't watch. You can also shut off E$PN and the Regional $ports Networks, and I wouldn't care. I'm mainly a Discovery and History Channel guy now. You may not care for Discovery or History though. Why should you pay for channels you don't watch.
     
  2. susanandmark

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    I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, to the general public, one channel "missing" is better than 17 (or 25). But, hey, if it makes you feel better to think my neighbor is an idiot and the only person on Earth who will leave DirecTV because of this, have at it.

    I, personally, watch multiple programs on AMC but with MAD MEN (which is amongst my top 5 favorite shows) not on for another year and BREAKING BAD readily available on iTunes or via DVD/Bluray, that's still far less of an issue for me and my family's viewing habits than the loss of Comedy Central, MTV (even if only for a single show) and the various Nick iterations.
     
  3. maartena

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    Never going to happen. ESPN is a "must have" network, and every carrier that loses it, will lose clients at an incredibly fast rate. No one is going to tell ESPN to stick it with $2.
     
  4. davidatl14

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    Sounds like you should follow suit with your neighbor and make the move to DISH.


    Looking forward to peeking into the DISH forums from time to and seeing the instantly recognizable "Missives of Withering Bitterness" about DISH.

    Hopefully DISH will brighten your mood in regards to your DBS provider of Choice.;)
     
  5. kulps19

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    I can't believe or fathom that some people on here try to acknowledge what is a "crap" program or channel and wonder why people would want to watch any of the Viacom channels. Comedy Central is one of my favorite channels to watch on DirecTV, mainly due to my love (and I will admit they are both mindless television) of Tosh.0 and especially Workaholics, which has quickly turned into one of my favorite shows on television. Stupid show? Who would watch that and why? Does this require less intelligence to have enjoyment watching this show? Well, I do have a doctoral degree in education, so let's not throw out stereotypes on people. I don't judge what anyone else watches and no one should on here as well. The beauty of DirecTV is that there are many channels for everyone, and some have been negatively impacted by this situation (in particular, I feel very badly for children and parents about Nick). It just makes me cringe to no end when people discuss the "crap" channels or wonder how anyone could watch that garbage.
     
  6. keith_benedict

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    You are probably in the minority on that one.

    We're watching Mad Men and Breaking Bad on Blu ray, since we missed out on them when they first aired. But I'd sooner give up every Viacom channel for AMC HD so that I can watch Walking Dead.

    I do admit that I'll miss Tosh.0, but I'll get over it.

    This dispute has made me realize just how little I need TV. I'm planning on lowering our plan to the lowest at the end of the month to save $15/month. I'll also be getting rid of the HD Extra Pack as soon as the Olympics are over to save another $5/month. We're not hurting for the $20, but it's ridiculous to waste $240/year for the crap that's on the channels I'll be giving up.
     
  7. Draconis

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    Hunh, if you look in the lower right-hand corner of the DIRECTVpromise website there is a form where you can subscribe for email updates; I wonder when that was added.
     
  8. Stuart Sweet

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    I completely utterly agree and I've read other articles by people who agree with you.
     
  9. inkahauts

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    An, some possible real numbers to look at... That's ridiculous...
     
  10. keith_benedict

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    I'll miss Tosh.0, but there isn't a single program on all of the other channels that I'll miss. Frankly, the idea the 20 million people will no longer be able to watch The Colbert Report or the Daily Report makes me happy.

    Parents with kids can let their children watch any number of other channels aimed at children. The world won't end if they can't watch Dora.
     
  11. susanandmark

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    So, I assume you're a brand new (in the last six months) DirecTV customer and fan then? Because DirecTV didn't have AMC HD long, LOOONG after just about every other provider, including DISH, did.

    And it was often pointed out on these forums how foolish and feeble those who said they'd switch to get it must be. After all who cares so much about one channel?

    As for being in the minority ... Give 100 random people two choices for anything (TV programming, food shopping, etc.), one of which is missing 17 things they might need and another missing only 1. Which do you think they will select? Get to back to me when you find the "majority" that picks the store with the 17 missing items over the store with just 1.
     
  12. inkahauts

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    Viacom is screwed if DIRECTV holds the line, because all the other cable companies will have no worries doing the same because their customers won't have as many choices of competitors. andif dish where to come up soon as well and also hold the line, then their would be no alternatives. The first company to loose carriage by several major providers at the same time is screwed, and will hopefully send a message to the rest of the broadcasters they are getting out of hand.
     
  13. Mark Holtz

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    Same here. The cost-benefit ratio isn't there anymore. The only reason why I still have DirecTV is that it is a requirement of part of my rent (along with DSL internet) for the house I share. I discussed the issue with my landlord this morning, and she does not want to miss her History and Discovery channel programming. So $90 per month is what I continue to pay.
     
  14. keith_benedict

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    I've been with Directv since 2001. I was one of the people screaming because they didn't have AMC HD. I didn't leave or threaten to leave (as least as far as I can remember I didn't). If I did, then I was foolish.

    If you ask 100 random people your question, I'd expect the smart ones to say that it depends on what the 17 are and one the 1 is. The ones that didn't ask that, I really don't care what their opinion is.

    I'm actually more happy than sad that the Viacom channels are gone. As I've already stated, I'll miss Tosh.0. It's one of my favorite shows, but the fact that the Daily Show, Colber Report, and Jersey Shore can no longer be seen by 20 million people makes me happy.
     
  15. TBlazer07

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    "Frankly" that was a pretty rude comment. Why should it make YOU HAPPY if others can't enjoy the programming they enjoy? Does it also make you happy when your neighbor's kitten gets hit by a car?

    I don't want to turn this thread into a political discussion but I can only guess at the absurd reason for your comment............ or maybe it isn't for political reasons but maybe people laughing upsets you. :nono2:
     
  16. BlackCoffee

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    You are absolutely wrong. It is not DTV that didn't want an agreement, it is VIACOM. All you want is an agreement so you can watch your channels.

    Facts:

    1. VIACOM pulled the channels not DTV.
    2. VIACOM is offering less than the last contract.
    - Channel ratings have declined
    - No offer to unbundle
    - No additional channels
    3. DTV has invested to improve VIACOMS Brand
    - Satellites, DVR recievers and software upgrades, HD delivery, etc.
    4. VIACOM requires their channels in all packages.
    - 20% of viewing, 100% funding

    You are hearing from the 80% that think VIACOM is junk and don't want them in the package, especially at a higher cost.

    Sorry you are inconvenienced, but if you are really are a VIACOM fan ask them why they didn't keep the channels up. I think DTV is being more than fair, they should have asked for a price reduction for faultering ratings.
     
  17. sigma1914

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    What is it about others not seeing a show that gets you off? Seriously, that's weird you're enjoying others missing out on entertainment they like.

    What did Colbert and Stewart ever do to you? :lol:
     
  18. kulps19

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    Were you trying to reinforce my point? Big deal, I'm sure there are shows or channels that you watch that people would be more then happy to let go or not watch as well. It makes no sense to try to examine what is a valuable channel or program as it greatly varies between different individuals.
     
  19. inkahauts

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    FOX news was the crux of the deal in last years fight between FOX and DIRECTV.

    And that's probably part of the issue with Viacom. It sounded to me like at one point DIRECTV wanted to keep the same channels or lower the number of channels from Viacom to lower costs, and Viacom possibly wants to keep the same or increase the number of channels they carry, and have a all or nothing approach to carrying its channels.
     
  20. keith_benedict

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    Yes, it has a lot to do with my political beliefs. I'd love to see Bill Maher gone too.

    I don't have anything against kittens.
     

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