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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Darth Malgus

    Darth Malgus Cool Member

    Jul 4, 2012

    1. No company goes into business hoping to earn your "good feelings" or positive opinion, they are in it for the money just like any other free market company would be. If you want someone to care about your feelings, find a non-profit organization to patronize.

    2. Cable companies charge higher fees, and make a cheaper product, which makes up the difference for things that D* charges for, such as the lease start up fee you mention.

    3. Your "designer shoe" comment pushed you right past anal, and into troll land. You don't like this "make believe" world that everybody but you lives in? Find your self a "real world" forum to troll.

    May your hatred strengthen you!
  2. ricksterinps

    ricksterinps Mentor

    Oct 11, 2007
    I'm all for D standing their ground on the whole Viacom issue, even though my family did watch many of their channels. I think it was awesome and shows that D does care about it's customers by turning on the Encore channels for all their subscribers.

    I was wondering about those of us that are on the Premier package, as we already get most of the channels. I'm not going to call and complain or anything, but has anyone heard about the Premium subscribers? I use a custom guide, so I wouldn't know if they had turned something on.
  3. tulanejosh

    tulanejosh Godfather

    May 23, 2008

    You misunderstand the point of my post.

    1) I don't want directv to care. I want them to admit that they don't. Reading comprehension.

    2) product quality is irrelevant. There are other business models. That was the point. Again - reading comprehension.

    3) designer shoes was targeted at the corporation not the poster - as in they claim to be "of the people" yet their profit margin says otherwise. But that's cool. I love money. Big fan. And I spend a very very large amount with directv - over $200 every month - I do not begrudge them their profits as I willingly contribute heavily to them. I simply want honesty about their motives.

    Thanks for playing guy who has 3 posts and who will disappear from this forum to visit a star wars convention once this issue is resolved.
  4. Brubear

    Brubear Legend

    Nov 13, 2008
    Any company that would use a image of a small child's loved cartoon character crying in an effort to manipulate that child by exploiting their emotional attachment to the character, and by extension, the parent, into acting on that company's behalf in a contractual dispute has hit the lowest low that corporate America can reach in my opinion.
    You would seriously use those images to upset and frighten small children as a tool to reach your goal? I hope that DirecTv doesn't reach an agreement with Viacom and drops the channels. Any company that would stoop to that level of exploitation is a symbiotic cross between a cockroach and a cash register. Of course, that would also explain "Jersey Shore"...
  5. tulanejosh

    tulanejosh Godfather

    May 23, 2008
    Scaring people by implying massive rate increases is not quite as bad but it's sure sensationalist too. I've done the math as have others - they are asking for less than $10 year. Not saying you should pay a single cent more but merely pointing out that many people on this forum have been confused and thought a 30% increase in their total bill is what was at stake. Children though should be left out of this. No disagreement there.
  6. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    My wife records one show on Spike. Tonight for the first time since this began, she went to watch an episode and discovered it wasn't there. She wasn't very happy about it, but after a couple of minutes of griping, she shut the tv off and picked up a good book and started reading it (she is a rather voracious reader).

    I don't record or watch any shows off of the Viacom group of channels.

    So that takes care of our concern, other than the principle of paying for a programming package that we're not getting. If this turns into a protracted affair, I may call and seek some compensation.
  7. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

    Sep 16, 2006
    Facebook is cookin...
  8. PK6301

    PK6301 Legend

    May 16, 2012
    Erie, PA
  9. bcrab

    bcrab Legend

    Mar 6, 2007
    Really? I did and do!

    If I didn't I'd be out of business in a heartbeat.
  10. cmasia

    cmasia Icon

    Sep 18, 2007
    Las Vegas
    I have no dog in this fight, as I don't watch any of the affected channels, but I recognize we all help each other pay for the channels we want.

    I'm Premier and watch about 40 channels a month excluding sports, but I know you help pay for mine and I help pay for yours...

    But I'm laughing like crazy now, as I'm in Chicago at The River Hotel for the weekend. And of the 40 or so channels in my room, I'm watching Mike White on 5 of them!

    By Sunday, I think I'd be willing to pay anything to get him off my screen! :))
  11. carlsbad_bolt_fan

    carlsbad_bolt_fan Icon

    May 18, 2004
    Carlsbad, CA
    Well, now you just KNOW that someone is going to mash up a graphic to make the head of Viacom look like Mr. Crab. :lol:
  12. Darth Malgus

    Darth Malgus Cool Member

    Jul 4, 2012

    Funny, coming from a guy who looks at posting in forums as some kind of game. Life comprehension. Furthermore, you complain about people not living in the real word, and then demand for things to happen that just don't occur in realty, i.e. D* coming out with a commercial starring The Rock that goes something like this....

    Dwayne Johnson : So Tulanejosh, do you think we care about you? *brief silence* IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK JABRONI!!!!!

    Now that I think about it, that would be kind of awesome. You're on to something there!!

    Oh and thank you for counting my posts for me I lost count. See you trolling around these forums for the foreseeable future.

    P.S. - I now have 4 posts Padawan :)
  13. Darth Malgus

    Darth Malgus Cool Member

    Jul 4, 2012

    So how is trying to pay your bills with those working out?
  14. mark40511

    mark40511 Legend

    Jul 18, 2008
    Lexington KY
    I'm trying to think of the shows I watch on all those channels that are now off the air. I do know there are a couple of shows on Spike "Repo Games" and some other show (I can't remember), at least I think Repo Games is on Spike? Maybe it's TrueTV, I don't even remember. I have it DVR'd.

    TVLand Hot in Cleveland & the Ex's, that's it.

    MTV - I do watch Jersey Shore (LOL), but just to LAUGH (that's it)

    MTV 2 - Pranked (that's it)

    Sometimes I watch the Comedy Central Presents stand up, but I think that's it for that channel.

    So my viewing habits of those channels are very sporadic and I could live without them...............

    I hope Directv wins this battle...............but ultimately these channels will all be back. I can't imagine them not coming back on sooner or later.
  15. n3vino

    n3vino Godfather

    Oct 2, 2011
    No company is going to admit that they don't care because, they do care that you are happy with their product. They have to have happy customers or they would lose business. Sometimes, it's better to lose a customer then losing money on them. That's the way business works.

    In this case, I'm sure they have to choose the lesser of the two evils. Lose subscribers because they lost some channels, or lose customers because they had to raise our rates?

    They have a lot of subs on contract, so that gives them time to work something out. They also have a lot of subs that care more about sports than these channels, so they are not going anywhere. But they also have a lot of subs, not on contract that like those channels and care less about sports.

    But then you also have a lot of subs that prefer losing the channels and keeping their bills down. These subs also have to choose the lesser of the two evils. I'm sure that many of them know that if they switch providers, they are going to have to go through this again when those contracts come up again.
  16. WebTraveler

    WebTraveler Icon

    Apr 9, 2006
    What's funny is that with the channels off, our bills stay the same, and Directv makes even MORE money off of us.....

    Although it's not really funny.....basically as consumers we're getting screwed. Now I support Directv in this action, but to some degree should they become wealthier for it? I don't think so.....
  17. BlackCoffee

    BlackCoffee AllStar

    May 23, 2009
    Just so you know, this forum has a lot more to offer than tulanejosh. In other threads we work problems and provide information that helps DTV find and resolve software bugs. The number of posts in not a badge of honor, it is the quality of your comments we care about.

    t* has been whining ever since he lost Jersey Shore-worse than my kids. I just don't spend that much of my life depending on DTV to take it that personnally.

    They have a problem with VIACOM, I don't really care about VIACOMs channels, and I would rather see a decent price from VIACOM since they are in my package whether I want them or not. More power to DTV in this battle.
  18. BlackCoffee

    BlackCoffee AllStar

    May 23, 2009
    I have noticed that except for the politically slant of some people, there are basically two arguements.

    tulanejosh and susanandmark champion the position that they spend a lot of money to buy everything DTV offers, I may not like it or even watch it, but I want to have the "choice" to watch it so they need to rollover, pay higher acquisition costs, and who cares if they pass it on.

    The second camp, which include most normal people like me, say VIACOM programming isn't that good, it's declined, why do I have to pay for it no matter what package I buy-So DTV, stand your ground and control cost.

    I have asked the first camp a number of times, why do you feel it is OK to make every DTV customer pay more just because you buy it all and think you want it now. Still unanswered question. If VIACOM is only 20% of DTV (VIACOM's own words), why can't VIACOM just agree to being unbundled, allow those of us that don't want their channels to opt out, and the rest can pay more. The answer is that they want money from people that don't want their product.

    It seems like the ability to have a "choice" only applies to tulanejosh and susanandmark. They expect the rest of us to pay for their choice.
  19. BlackCoffee

    BlackCoffee AllStar

    May 23, 2009
    Actually you do. Since these channels are in Premier your costs are directly related to VIACOMs rate. That is the problem. Everyone will be facing an increase no matter what package they have or whether they watch the channels or not. The only way around this is for VIACOM to agree to be unbundled.
  20. SHS

    SHS Legend

    Jan 7, 2003
    Vinita, OK
    Man this really start to piss me off now I'm get email with Attention DIRECTV Customers: DIRECTV dropped 26 of your channels! coming from mtv-newsletter

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