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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Ira Lacher

    Ira Lacher Icon

    Apr 24, 2002
    One factor to consider is that unlimited data for a single price may be nearing its end. Several IPOs have said they are considering converting to metered internet usage, similar to the way most mobile carriers charge for data use. And if this comes to pass en masse, watching TV thru streaming, with its vast amounts of data usage, will be quite unaffordable.
  2. SteveHas

    SteveHas Hall of Fame

    Feb 6, 2007
    This is in fact the apparent SOP for negotiations.
  3. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
  4. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

    Feb 27, 2006
    Both companys just decided to go on vacation! I doubt half of what they claim they are doing is even taking place.
  5. TBoneit

    TBoneit Hall Of Fame

    Jul 27, 2006
    Viacom is really lucky I'm not involved in those negotiations.

    My theory with regard to rate increases is quite simple.

    DirecTV to Viacom. You want an additional 1 Billion dollars, no problem. Just write the contract to start in 2 years so that the savings from us not paying you for those two years equal the increase in price over the life of the contract.

    Done, DirecTV gets to save the $1 billion ahead of when they have to start paying the increase. Viacom gets their price increase.

    Everybody's happy! !Devil_lol
  6. adamblast

    adamblast Cool Member

    Jul 23, 2011
    I cut the cord several years ago. I hate sports, and sports is one of the few advantages left for cable/sat. This really does feel like fighting over the last sushi roll on the Titanic, as someone said... :lol:

    Then my parents came for a visit and Dad signed me up again. He said it's in exchange for me looking after Mom (ALZ) whenever he needs a caretaker vacation, so cool, I have D*.

    As entertaining as this thread has been, some of you are needlessly arguing over things that aren't either/or, yaknow.

    Both *evil megacorps* can be out to screw us over without necessarily being co-equal dicks in this negotiation set.
  7. susanandmark

    susanandmark Godfather

    Feb 15, 2007
    Yes! That would be an amazing strategy that would bring great joy to all involved. I mean, sure, the downside is that DirecTV would likely no longer exist. Because, you know, after two years as the sole provider without some of the most watched and popular basic cable channels in existence, a great many of their subscribers will have fled and new acquisitions would have dwindled to a trickle, sending profit percentages plunging into an abyss and making them ripe for, at best, a buyout, and, at worst, being sold off in parts. But, you know, other than being total corporate suicide, it's a really great plan.

    Everyone who believes that DirecTV doesn't need Viacom is simply delusional. It's a parasitic relationship, neither can survive without the other but, at least in the near term, Viacom is more independently viable than DirecTV. If DirecTV doesn't have channels it has nothing to sell. It's like how if I'm running a bakery, I gotta get the eggs and butter from the store to make my wares. Now, long term, the grocer will go out of business if EVERYONE (not just my shop) stops buying his goods but, short term, without those eggs, I'm the one who has no cakes to sell. Who do you think goes out of business first?
  8. Montel

    Montel Mentor

    Jul 20, 2007
    Probably already mentioned before - but how about a Viacom package:

    For $3 per month you get all Viacom channels?

    I would think that would be cool - sort of a back door to ala carte?
  9. kulps19

    kulps19 New Member

    Jul 27, 2011
    I decided to cancel my Sunday Ticket over this situation. I do love the NFL but I see my favorite team in their home market anyway so I figured I could save a couple bucks and express my displeasure with one of my favorite channels (comedy central) being off the air. The CSR agent told me of course they are coming back soon and let me cancel it. Kinda glad this situation occurred and i got to save a few bucks from it honestly.
  10. JoeTheDragon

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    maybe with epix being part of that.
  11. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

    Feb 27, 2006
    No way would they only Charge $3 for the Viacom suite. It would be more like 2-3$ per Viacom Channel.

    Your not going to get Directv's rates or any other providers rates for that matter!
  12. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    You keep saying how popular all the Viacom channels are, and I suppose the ratings are high. But then with such high ratings, why are their ad rates so low? Maybe because the demo watching isn't buying enough of whatever the advertisers are selling? And of course, there has been a decline in viewership by quite a bit too.

    So it isn't that Viacom isn't worth having, it is that it is a very devalued product and the advertisers have seen that and won't buy high priced ad space on their channels. And that tells me that Viacom doesn't deserve any rate increase at all. But give them some pittance increase as an act of charity might be in order... :)
  13. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    I'm sure Viacom would like to get 2-3$ per Viacom channel, but I doubt they'd get many interested in any of those channels at that price.
  14. tvropro

    tvropro AllStar

    Nov 3, 2010
    Here is the Viacom MTV pack on C band:

    Mini packs do exist and could on Direct too if they wanted it. The Viacom channels are working fine on my C band sub.
  15. yosoyellobo

    yosoyellobo Icon

    Nov 1, 2006
    Jacksonville Fl
    Sounds kind of high to me. I would not even pay 2-3$.
  16. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    Would be cool for us customers.

    Not cool for Viacom: They want people to channel browse, en up on their channels, and thus watch their advertising.

    Not cool for DirecTV: They make more money selling "Choice" type packages with a large amount of channels.

    So.... not very likely to happen.

    And as others have mentioned: You won't be paying the price Viacom wants, you will be paying the price viacom wants + the amount DirecTV needs to distribute the channel + the amount DirecTV wants as profit.

    Seeing as their are many channels people don't want, for a-la-carte to be profitable in any way, you are probably looking at $0.50 per unpopular/hardly watched channel, $1 per average channel, and anywhere from $2 to $5 per popular channel.
  17. susanandmark

    susanandmark Godfather

    Feb 15, 2007
    Ad revenue for television advertising across the board is down, sharply, in the past five years. In part due to the economy (companies are spending less on advertising) and in part due to the shift in how we watch television (DVRs). Traditional commercials now earn less. Period.

    Also down over all? Pay TV subscriptions.

    Both sides are trying to maintain profits on the back's of customers instead of rethinking and reworking their business models to something that works better with the current television watching reality. That is unsustainable, on all sides, long term.

    Neither business model is dead, yet, but, just like newspapers and magazines, the ad-sponsored television model of the 1950s is most definitely in serious decline.
  18. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

    Feb 27, 2006
    Yea you proved my point, its $10 per month for only some of the Viacom channels!

    If you want the other's you have to buy another seperate pack!
    I didn't see Spike in that line up either.

    I would rather do without the Viacoms then have a 10 foot Dish in my back yard! Hows the channel surfing with that thing?:hurah::lol:
  19. Starchild

    Starchild Legend

    Sep 4, 2007
    Well at least directv stepped up for the kids. According to Bloomberg Disney junior will be added to basic programming as a 24 hour channel tomorrow.
  20. Sixto

    Sixto Well-Known Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    Yep. Tomorrow.

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