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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Shades228

    Shades228 DaBears

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    I think you both need to go to the User CP and just ignore eachother:

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  2. tulanejosh

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    Done. Didn't know how to do that, had been searching for the last 15 minutes. Ty.
     
  3. MONSTERMAN

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    I'm really getting fed up with DIRECTV's GREED!!!

    DIRECTV makes $5 Billion in PROFIT and is expected to have a record year in 2012. DIRECTV has the choice of pocketing your dollars and they clearly do – they have raised their rates 52% in the past seven years, tripling their profitability in that time. Our channels represent 20% of DIRECTV viewing but only 5% of their programming budget so yes, we absolutely think an increase is fair, but clearly this does not need to be passed onto you. DIRECTV can afford a couple pennies a day for its loyal, hardworking customers.

    Disgusting the way these DIRECTV corporate CEO's are sooo GODDAMN greedy. I'm seriously thinking about making the switch to ATT UVERSE now after being with Directv since 1996, b/c I think this will just keep happening every few months from now on with other companies. Doesn't anybody remember that other fiasco months ago with FX. I think this will just keep happening, DIRECTV needs to really clean their house of these corporate greedy bastards...
     
  4. cariera

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    Your math seems a little fuzzy. $144M/yr divided among 20M subs is $7.20 per sub per year. That means 60 cents/month. Assuming ARPU is $90 and Directv wanted to cover the entire Viacom increase that would amount to a .67% increase in the monthly bill... not 30%.

    As far as the "creative math" that Directv may have used in February if they expected to have their programming costs increase by 10% and those programming cost consume let's say 50% of their income, then with the increase those costs become 55%. So while the programming costs increased by 10%, the business expense increased by 5%. So Directv had the customer pick up 4% of the increased expense and they absorb the other 1%.

    So to keep it simple if ARPU is $100 and programming costs are 50% ($50), Directv would be making $50/month off every sub (we know this is not true because there are other expenses). Now programming costs increase 10% to $55 with no price increase to subs, Directv's "profit' decreases to $45/month. By raising prices by 4% (to $104) their "profit" is $49/month. Very close to where it started. It's not "creative math", it's just math.

    Now 2 trains leave Chicago heading in opposite directions............:)
     
  5. Guitar Hero

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    Wait, not too fast... I need to fire up my calculator.
     
  6. boufa

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    Your joking right? DirecTV is in business to make money....lots of it. In fact it is required by law to protect its investors.. aka make lots of money... Guess what ATT is also in business to make lots of money. To the best of my knowledge, no churches, or other charity groups operate tv distribution companies. Nor should they. It should also be pointed out to you anti corperation fools, that they employ a lot of people. They spend a lot of money on other companies.. building sats, installers, etc. Many of them in your own home town. That ceo is doing his job, and from what I have seen, doing it well.
    Them "eating a few pennies" would set a precident that they could never keep up with.

    Btw...look at viacom's profit margins. They are doing pretty ok too.
     
  7. tonyd79

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    Someone remind me about the "fiasco with FX.". How long was it off?
     
  8. boufa

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    No,no,no... You need simple math that sounds complicated, reality does not mean anything. Like whne they say that 14,000 people lost their jobs at a factory that only employees 1000. Simple math.

    My bill went up, DirecTV is evil, that's all they understand.
     
  9. dpeters11

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    Not that Uverse has ever dropped channels due to a dispute, like Food Network, HGTV, DIY, Fox Sports....
     
  10. dpeters11

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    You should watch the TED talk called Copyright Math, from Rob Reid.
     
  11. cariera

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    What things cost in 2008/2011 (3 years, not 6 but you get the idea)

    Rent $800/ $955.10 19% increase
    Gallon of Gas $3.39/ $3.89 15% increase
    Loaf of Bread $1.68/$1.98 18% increase
    Gallon of Milk $2.65/$3.39 28% increase
    Movie Ticket $6.95/$8.20 18% increase
    Stamp $0.42/ $0.44 5% increase

    Prices tend to go up

    Good luck with the switch, hope it goes smoothly but remember all providers have to negotiate and re-negotiate carriage contracts so there is nothing to guarantee that a similar situation won't arise with another company.
     
  12. inkahauts

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    Of course you are still paying Viacom if have dish at all,so that's not really going to do much.
     
  13. luckydob

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    AT&T first qtr 2012 numbers....please note this is for 3 months:

    http://www.4ginfo.com/index.php/atat-q1-earning-report-2012.html

    For the quarter ended March 31, 2012, AT&T's consolidated revenues totaled $31.8 billion, up $575 million, or 1.8 percent, versus the year-earlier quarter.

    Compared with results for the first quarter of 2011, operating expenses were $25.7 billion versus $25.4 billion; operating income was $6.1 billion, up from $5.8 billion; and operating income margin was 19.2 percent, compared to 18.6 percent.

    Profit is not evil. Profit leads to expansion of services, investment in employees, etc... Everyone has choices and everyone is entitled to their opinions, but businesses are not non-profit entities. We all are trying to do the same thing in life; make it better by improving our earnings however we can. Profit and businesses are ESSENTIAL to our lives. I do not begrudge either company here...they are doing what we all do every day when we go to work.
     
  14. MONSTERMAN

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    Well, then I hope you continue to enjoy the rate increases imposed by your masters, without any question as to why...
     
  15. Scott Kocourek

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    Please stay on topic and do not discuss each other.

    This is my final warning, thread bans and infractions are very close to being handed out.
     
  16. inkahauts

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    Haha. Ask Viacom how much their profits are and how badly they need the raise. Thats the problem I have with that kind of argument, it works both ways, and the CEO of Viacom is making a heck of a lot more than the CEO of DIRECTV last time I saw a while back.
     
  17. tonyd79

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    And he has a cooler name.
     
  18. inkahauts

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    Where is everyone seeing this that DIRECTV has said they'd have to raise rates 30%?

    The only thing I have seen is them say that Viacom is trying to raise their rates 30% in total over the new contract.
     
  19. loudo

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    We had that with C-Band and most of the time it was cheaper to pick an already designed package, that contained the channels you wanted, rather than select your channels a la carte and make up your own package own package.
     
  20. bixler

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    LMAO....Directv is a publicly traded company.....these 'corporate greedy bastards' have ONE job....make their shareholders the most money they can. It's business.....it's life....deal with it or go play somewhere else.
     

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