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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. android.cphone

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    I have a great way of ending this dispute...
    1.tape open the eyes of the ceo of viacom
    2.make him watch the customer information channel for 48hrs straight


    nothing wrong with a little bit of torture .. Lol
     
  2. Mariah2014

    Mariah2014 Breaking the mold

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    I think that is exactly it. They wanted to prove it to Viacom that their channels can be lived without.
     
  3. tulanejosh

    tulanejosh Godfather

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    agree. But i think that's really hard to prove. For all the posturing on both sides - fact is, most of us are under contract. There's enough people saying they can't afford to pay any more than they already do - and directv is saying that as well - that i can't believe that for just 4 days of outage people are willing to pay a several hundred $ etf. The only way to really prove it one way or another is to let this go a year, and see how churn is impacted. And i hope to god that doesn't happen. Personally - i want these channels back.
     
  4. Mariah2014

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    I think it comes down to one big game of chicken
    Directv called their bluff and viacom said the channels had to come down.
    Directv told people where they could find the programing, viacom said fine and pulled it off their site.
    Viacom hopes people can't live without their networks at any cost and Directv is telling them we can unless the price is right. In the end, we will pay more, but Viacom will have to cave from the pressure. If directv was going to cave, I would think it would have happened by now.
     
  5. HuskerHarley

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    Do you think when a customer calls in, it's for a friendly chat-->:rolleyes:

    HH
     
  6. Carl Spock

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    You don't have to be rude to a CSR. A "get more flies with honey" attitude has always worked for me.
     
  7. Mariah2014

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    Very true, but I think his point was that in many cases right now people are so frustrated with the situation that they are less friendly than they may be ordinarily.
     
  8. tulanejosh

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    i tend to agree. you have to take it with a grain of salt. At the same time - all of their official communication channels (directvpromise.com, derek chang in the media, twitter, CSRs,) are saying "we'll get this done", "we're making serious progress", "this won't last much longer". It's one thing to permanently lose the channels, but it's a bit of a PR fiasco if they were publicly making the statements above and then actually can't get this resolved.
     
  9. HuskerHarley

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    When you have to jump through all the hoops to reach a Human (CSR) to get to the bottom of what ever is wrong,,,Well,,,I'm usually not in any mood to have a friendly chat...


    Pretty much nailed it-->;)

    HH
     
  10. tulanejosh

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    Assuming that the issue is as simple as "caving". This is a big contract between 2 big corps. Probably more complicated with more points than any of us realize. Price is very likely only one aspect. The issue of Epix and tiers is probably just as sticky as price.
     
  11. wahooq

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    One reaps what they sow...just sayin
     
  12. tulanejosh

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    Little off topic... but does anyone know the real deal with Disney Junior. I read the press release - says permanent addition to basic tier. But on twitter - they are saying "free while we work this out", which i interpret as this channel is either temporary or it will cost a fee (like Baby First used to) after this is resolved. I'm not sure who to believe.
     
  13. Mariah2014

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    The sad thing is that it still could happen that way. We may see it break down again be a lot longer before things get going again. I hope it doesn't go that way, but you never know. I would think the next week or so should be more than long enough to get a deal done.
     
  14. Mariah2014

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    Very true. I think Epix is a big part of the issue being discussed. When KHQ/ KNDU/ KNDO contract came up, they wanted to force directv to pick up SWX. In the end, Directv was able to get the channels renewed without having to add another station.
     
  15. Mariah2014

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    I thought at first it was part of the bottom tier, but I have not seen what the bottom package it will be in named yet. I would guess it would be either choice or choice extra. I doubt any package below that will actually get to keep the station. The preview is apparently through July 27.
     
  16. tulanejosh

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    Negotiations can always break down, but D* is pretty savvy with PR. I might not necessarily think like the spin they are putting on this, but I don't think they are liars either. If they weren't making progress, i think they would just say we continue to work on this check ... for the latest news. But they are painting a much more specific picture.

    Directv and Viacom need each way too much. I cannot possibly imagine those channels permanently going dark.
     
  17. mystro

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    ain't enough profit :)
     
  18. Mariah2014

    Mariah2014 Breaking the mold

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    However, Viacom needs Directv more than Directv needs Viacom.
     
  19. Satelliteracer

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    Actually DIRECTV was the first major provider to launch HD in a significant way and those weren't launched until 2007. To say this is the standard broadcast method simply isn't true in the dates you describe.

    There are still many SD channels that do not even have a HD equivalent here in 2012. In other words, there are more SD channels than HD.

    The fact of the matter is that there are still more SD televisions active in the USA than HD televisions and that will be the case for a few more years before HD televisions become the majority. We are not there yet.
     
  20. mystro

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    Just the quarterly report from 2011:
    Revenue in the quarter, ended June 30, rose 15 percent to $3.77 billion.

    Just ain't enough :)
     

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