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Directv will count ST and other sports packages in their 100 channel lineup

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by indirectv, Mar 29, 2007.

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  1. Mar 29, 2007 #41 of 117

    Mikey Hall Of Fame

    Oct 26, 2004
    Scobuck, the link you got WAS a link to DBSTALK:

    I'll leave it to you or someone else to point out E* shortcomings that I might have missed, and I'll continue to respond to BS as I see it, regardless of the source.

    And it seems that most everyone here will be perfectly satisfied with 46.66 HD channels from D*, even when they promised 100.
  2. Mar 29, 2007 #42 of 117

    ScoBuck Banned User

    Mar 5, 2006
    For the last time - I was talking about the following info being outdated and asking for a correct posting to be made here to make it current. If that's not good enough for you - TOO BAD!


    It happens to be a MAJOR heading in the DISH forum and would be nice to be current. If that bothers you - TOO BAD!

    And I'm not so sure I understand why you bitch about D* but won't discuss LIES and MISLEADING info given out by YOUR provider.
  3. Mar 29, 2007 #43 of 117

    heavyobjects Legend

    Mar 23, 2007
    Wrong again. No one said they don't expect the 100... Just not all of them will be 24/7-- which MOST HD channels are not.

    If you want to suggest somebody got "BSed" - you might want to consider E* -- if they did, indeed, claim 60, of which you got 28 (most of those likewise not 24/7 - count ESPN among them), I think your answer is just a click away.

    I am not pointing this out to say one is better than the other, just pointing out that your logic is flawed, your BS label should be plastered on much more than D*, and to claim you will be notifying us of all the BS as you see it, you may require your own forum on your own dedicated server (if you use your label fairly).
  4. Mar 29, 2007 #44 of 117

    ScoBuck Banned User

    Mar 5, 2006
    Judge for yourself. Here is the link:

    And here is the quote from that link:
    The first local markets to be carried in HDTV are New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston and Atlanta starting in January 2006. Dish announced plans to add 5 more markets per month for the rest of 2006. The satellites used have not been announced but 61.5° and 129° have the most room.
  5. Mar 29, 2007 #45 of 117

    hr20manray Guest

    Dec 18, 2006

    Don't forget.
    "Keep until I delete" doesn't mean "Keep until I delete."
    300 + 300 = 300
    100 channels means 75 channels.

    And next I suppose I'll be expected to hear "Late fall of 2007 really means early 2008."
    Oh, wait a minute ... Uh oh.
  6. Mar 29, 2007 #46 of 117

    Satster AllStar

    Oct 27, 2006
    I guess it depends on your perspective. For me that's good news. It shows D* is committed to HD sports programming. I would be happy if they added ZERO new national channels but broadcast every NHL Center Ice game in HD, even at a modest additional cost. I don't need HGTV, Food Network, etc. (now, SciFi HD would be useful, so I don't have to wait 4 months to watch new Galactica episodes on Universal HD).

    Also, I am no D* apologist. I spent my share of time yelling at them on the phone because of the HR20 problems and really regretted my 2 year extension. But the software is now acceptable to me and I expect D* to be the best choice for NHL HD by the end of 2007, so I am more or less satisfied.
  7. Mar 29, 2007 #47 of 117
    Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    My, my - this conversation heated up.

    I just want my HD - 100% ST HD would be great!
  8. Mar 29, 2007 #48 of 117

    Mikey Hall Of Fame

    Oct 26, 2004
    Here's one: http://www.satelliteguys.us/showpost.php?p=787974&postcount=5
  9. Mar 29, 2007 #49 of 117

    ScoBuck Banned User

    Mar 5, 2006
  10. Mar 29, 2007 #50 of 117
    Earl Bonovich

    Earl Bonovich Lifetime Achiever

    Nov 15, 2005

    Please... this is about DirecTV and their "statments" about 100 channels, what there really will be, ect...

    What DISH network does with their subscribers and system... is for the other forums.
  11. Mar 29, 2007 #51 of 117

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    D* is all about announcements. The fact of the matter is that E* has debuted channels and D* hasn't (other than their in-house productions). The new Voom HD channels, FoodHD and HGTV HD all debuted on Dish Network.

    Let's never forget that at least one of these DirecTV "announcements" was news to the network involved. DirecTV suggests that the fact that these substantially unnamed channels/networks are going HD is entire due to their efforts. Hogwash!
  12. Mar 29, 2007 #52 of 117
    Earl Bonovich

    Earl Bonovich Lifetime Achiever

    Nov 15, 2005
    No different then when some of the affiliates find out that they have been broadcasting MPEG-4 for MONTHS. (Based on user comments here and postings in other forums). All depends on who you talk to in those companies (networks).

    Since none of this is going to be decided until the later half of this year...
    Let the arguments continue then, when the SAT is up (so the ability to broadcast the channels is there), and then we can argue on what goes up as an HD and what doesn't.

    A LOT can change between NOW and THEN.
    And some of those channels that where supposidly "shocked" that they where going to be carried in HD.... I was more "shocked" that already didn't have HD Plans in full swing (if that was truely the case).
  13. Mar 29, 2007 #53 of 117

    Vinny New Member

    Sep 1, 2006
    Long Island, NY
    1) Not for a second should anyone ever think that the RSN's weren't being included in the 100 National HD channel number. It has been stated here before; THERE AREN'T 100 NATIONAL HD STATIONS TO BROADCAST unless you add the RSNs.

    2) Saying you don't watch more than 10 or 20 channels anyway; isn't a good argument for why there shouldn't be more HD stations. Saying that is the equivalent of saying 50 years ago; I only watch 3 stations; so I don't care if the rest are broadcast in COLOR.

    3) As far as I'm concerned; I want the availability of EVERY station to be broadcast in HD; and as it stands right now; D* will be the only satellite company that will have the CAPACITY to do that in the short run. Will everyone catch up; YES...but D* will be there first.

    4) When D* said they will have be broadcasting 100 National HD stations; why would anyone think that everyone in the country would receive them. They broadcast dozens of RSN's; but everyone doesn't receive them. So should they say they only broadcast the 2 or 3 from each market.
  14. Mar 29, 2007 #54 of 117

    dhaakenson Legend

    Jan 13, 2007
    You're right! Forgot about that one. Perhaps the "I" in that phrase means the HR20, not the customer.

    With those 100 new HD channels (wait, 80 and falling), my HR20 will be able to automatically delete even more programs I've asked it not to. Fantastic! :)
  15. Mar 29, 2007 #55 of 117

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    Wow. I'm so upset with *only* 70 full time HD channels I think I'm going to cancel right now.
  16. Mar 29, 2007 #56 of 117

    Nick Retired, part-time PITA DBSTalk Club

    Apr 23, 2002
    Truer words were never spoken, Earl. On my birthday in 2005, I was in apparent
    good health kicking butt and taking names. The next day, I was flat on my back
    in the local hospital having just suffered a stroke. :stickman:

    Yes, a lot can change between now and then...
  17. Mar 29, 2007 #57 of 117

    heavyobjects Legend

    Mar 23, 2007
    Perhaps you too should think about exchanging e-mail addresses or using PMs. Still waiting on some productive commentary or useful addition to the discussion.
  18. Mar 29, 2007 #58 of 117

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    Voom channels, does anyone really care, guess not since not one single other cable system (including the former Voom owners) carry the package.

    As for HGTV HD, you're telling me that between its launch on 4/10/2006 (see http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/pac_ctnt_988/text/0,,HGTV_22056_44656,00.html ) and 6/9/2006 (see http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=68854&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=871065&highlight= ) not one single cable system had picked up that channel before E* did?

    Same thing for Food Network HD, launch on 6/30/06 (http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6347628.html?display=Breaking+News) and E* started to carry it on 8/17/06 (http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=68854&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=897008&highlight=)

    So please stop making E* sound like they are the leader in getting content providers to launch new HD channels (not carrying them but launching them ). And frankly, who cares if D* makes the announcement first or the content provider as long as they get launched. So far I haven't seen one of the channels that D* listed being retracted by the content provider.
  19. Mar 29, 2007 #59 of 117

    djstough AllStar

    Nov 26, 2006
    Okay, so my current issue of the local newspaper has a full page Comcrap ad:

    Comcast Digital Cable - More Choices, More Control, citing the program guide, Parental controls, and 47 music channels.

    Matched or bettered by DTV.

    Comcast High-Speed Internet - More Speed

    I get much more speed from my FIOS connection.

    Comcast Digital Voice - More Features. More for less.

    My Vonage is 8 dollars less per month, with every feature listed.

    My point is, advertising is advertising. If you buy or don't based on items in ads, you are doing yourself a disservice. How about Chevy truck ads showing obviously impossible towing feats, or trucks flying through the air? Should we say they don't offer a competent truck for ANYONE? No, but maybe not for my needs. I am quite happy with DTV, having had Knology, Comcast, etc., and DTV in combinations over the past 11 years.
  20. Mar 29, 2007 #60 of 117

    ScoBuck Banned User

    Mar 5, 2006
    Actually its really all getting kind of old.

    There are how many makes/models cars? People buy the one they like in the price they can afford - endless discussion back and forth which is better.

    TV - same thing. Lot's of choices, we all obviously have picked what WE EACH believe is the best choice. There are some subs from ALL of various the providers that are unhappy and want to change - some have comitttments, etc., but still there are some in EACH camp that would change if they could.

    WE go back and forth - has been going on forever and it has and never will solve the situations they all are in - currently, going foward, etc.

    The offerings are intentionally different - if they were all the same there would be no competition. Tired of arguing about the business of the billionaires - none of them really gives a rat's A** about us.

    I have D* - not because I'm a fanboy - with the choices I have in front of me they simply offer more of what I want. If E* had it - I would be in their corner ASAP. I don't really like giving any of them my hard earned money - so I get the one that serves me best IMO. And I bet that's the truth for ALL of us.
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