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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by llupin, Oct 29, 2012.
Gold Medal is an equal opportunity gouger and does it year round. No catastrophes needed.
If I wasn't so lazy.... :lol:
Trick is getting the pad level.
If necessary, use washers as shims, or better yet, for more precise leveling, use double-nuts to adjust to exactly level, then lock down gen.
I have seen the jack-leg work the "Licensed Master Electrician" did on my house. I'll go with me.
Normally running gas pipe is not something that is DIY. But I grew up on gas wells and pipelines as it was the family business. I have been working on wellheads since I was 14 or so. So I know what I am doing and am very comfortable doing it. Wouldn't risk my family's safety if I wasn't.
Actually the Generac that I got recommends putting it on a 4-6" bed of gravel instead of a concrete pad.
I have not seen any mention of pads aside from posts on this thread. Wonder how much they cost? The gennys must come with levelers built in, getting the pad level and keeping it level might be a problem.
As I've said many times, finding a good electrician is difficult. The guy I know and I used to work on jobs together and, if I do install one, I'll work with him.
I was never allowed do work as you were, union stopped me from doing anything but electrical work. I wouldn't be comfy with the NG thing, but I'd pay happily to have that done by someone that knows what he's doing.
The permitting process and inspections should cover installation for insurance purposes.
Usually, that's not a bad idea. I was thinking of a pad sitting on a few inches of three quarter stone and a couple inches of sand, but if the maker recommends the gravel, that's even easier.
One of the sales person I had told me that some companies have pads that go with the generators. They are soft and sound absorbing. The pad sets on a bed of gravel.
I've never heard of a "Licensed Master Electrician", unless that's something the guy threw into an ad for impact. I know NJ takes no notice of whether you're a Master, Senior or ordinary electrician as far as the licensing test goes. Master and Senior being synonymous.
Yup, in the chemical plant I worked in we put everything on concrete pads, so I'm not really sure what the requirements are state by state.
I'd guess with the kind of pad you're talking about, it would just settle into the pad. Thinking about it, I gotta wonder how much impact on the gennys leveling has to do with their installation. Does it have to be exact or ballpark?
That sounds reasonable. I just received a quote of $9,000 to install this unit > http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs...talogId=10053&productId=202493184&R=202493184 (gas line not included).
$9,000 just to install it? Or is the price of the genny included in that? And they don't install the gas line?
Generators aren't that complicated. The transfer switch is more complicated than the genny itself. Even that's not that hard to install. The big transfer switches I've worked on were controlled by a relay that was in one position when the normal power was on and when it went off, the relay dropped out allowing the transfer switch to move to the genny position. These were on big diesel gennys.
The last Generac I installed came with a Hard Plastic pad
No, that includes the generator but conisidering it's retail price, the labor charge seems high to me. And he (the electrical contractor) said it was up to me whether I wanted to use his plumber at a cost of around $1,500 or I could get my own plumber.
Identical unit I've been focused on, though I'd really like one of the $3000 hypothetical Bloom Energy home fuel cell units that they talked about a couple of years ago
Also thought about solar but fuel cell may really be the future, but may need 14RESA in the meantime.
We have been getting quotes in the $9500 range for a 20kW Generac, all plumbing and electrical included. $9,000 for a 14kW plus another $1500 for the gas line seems pretty high.
WOW I hate to see my fellow DBS'ers get taken. You need to step back and think how much KWH you need for your home. What is important ? What do you have to cover ? Refridg , TV , Heat, Etc. Then get the Gen you need to cover it. I wired the Generac to the panel in 2 hours. Just so long the sub panel can be with in 1 foot of your orginal panel from wer u locate the unit out side. The gas line being run with Trac pipe to the gen or iron pipe will need a plumber. Unless u hav the knowledge to run it with copper or Iron. Trac requires special tools and Lic. again it is how far they have to run it is the price. A normal install shouldnt be more then $ 1000.00 to $ 1500.00
Unless you live in a mansion, it is rare that you would ever need more than about 10KW and that's if you run everything in your house all at the same time. Most could be very comfortable with a 5KW to 7KW generator. Plus, the bigger the genset, the more fuel it burns, and the more often it needs refueling. If on gas, you're okay as long as the gas line isn't damaged.