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DIRECTV2PC v5717 - Issues & Discussion

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  1. Jan 30, 2010 #441 of 1021
    kude

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    Does this work fine with a DVI output? If so, hope it doesn't get broken by future software.

    Veryoldschool, what kind of hookup do you use for your monitor? If not DVI, VGA? If it is VGA, then HDCP is not an issue it would seem.
     
  2. Jan 30, 2010 #442 of 1021
    veryoldschool

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    I've been testing DirecTV2PC from the first release.
    I have two systems, one has VGA and the other DVI. Both of these motherboards have Realtek sound chips.
    I've also had motherboards & sound cards that had others. C-media & ADI [Soundmax] were the first ones that gave me the audio error for HDCP.
    The DVI one uses a Dell 2007 WFP monitor that supports HDCP. The current video card is a nVidia 8800GT, but I've also gone through maybe a dozen video cards, from ATI & nVidia, and over two dozen versions of DirecTV2PC.
    While I don't have all the answers, I do feel I know most of them from first hand experience. :)
     
  3. Feb 1, 2010 #443 of 1021
    sko58

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    I would really appreciate some help if possible.

    I began trying to use DTV2PC several months ago and can't remember the version of the software I first downloaded. At the time, everything seemed to work pretty well...a little stuttering here and there - video & audio both - but nothing worth getting upset about.

    However, the application has performed so poorly since that first time I used it that I haven't been able to take advantage of it anymore.

    Before I go further, here's my setup:

    ***Note: I was using Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 the first time I used the program.

    Currently...

    <Dell XPS M1330 Notebook>

    ~ Windows 7 HP x86
    ~ Intel Core2Duo Processor - 1.80Ghz
    ~ 3GB DDR2 Ram
    ~ Nvidia GeForce 8400M GS Graphics - 128MB dedicated memory with custom optimized driver version 195.62
    ~ Wireless N Wifi

    <Home Network>

    ~ D-Link Wireless N - DIR-655
    ~ Ethernet to HR23-700 - Wireless N on notebook PC
    ~ Speedtest.net speed tests reflect the following: *Rounded*
    - 25.5 Mbps - Download
    - 2.05 Mbps - Upload
    - Ping & Latency tests graded out as an "A"​
    * I test my line at least monthly and these numbers are always consistent - rarely lower. The neighborhood hub is in my back yard which helps with line quality, signal strength, etc.
    * The D-Link router is literally 10 feet from my notebook when streaming video.

    As for my troubleshooting steps, here's what I've already tried:

    ~ Made sure I'm using the latest version
    ~ Always run the program with Administrator rights - even though there shouldn't be a need to do so
    ~ Changed the priority of the running process to "High"
    ~ Closed all running applications - and even tried stopping all non-essential background services as well
    ~ Ensured the internet connection was not being used by any other devices/consoles/PC's, etc.

    The processor typically operates at approximately 25-40% on both cores while the application is streaming video. The majority of the time it hovers around the 30% mark. Therefore, it's far from being maxed out - which could contribute to stuttering problems.

    Given that information, there should be absolutely *no* reason why this app should be performing so poorly. Yes, I know my graphics card isn't the most powerful in the world but it has no problem playing streamed HD video through any other application. I'm able to watch any video formats I want - streamed or otherwise - on my notebook but I can't watch 2 seconds of HD video with DTV2PC.

    FYI - I've also tried the app on my desktop PC - Vista HP x86, Quad Core processor, Nvidia graphics with 512MB dedicated memory, 4GB DDR2 Ram and experience the same problems.

    Any ideas as to why this app works so poorly on my PC?

    It's getting frustrating to say the least. If my notebook is good enough to decode HD video on the fly while streaming it at 1080P quality via PS3 Media Server, then it should definitely be able to play video streamed from my HR23 without stuttering issues.

    Again, I'd really appreciate the help from some of you experts out there. I want to like this app - but it's making it very difficult...especially when combining these issues with all the activation key problems I've had. It seems I need a new key almost every other time I use it. :nono2:

    Thanks a ton for your efforts to help!
     
  4. Feb 1, 2010 #444 of 1021
    robbiecc

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    Hi,
    I recently lost my wireless network. After reinstalling everything it's back up and running but I must have something not quite right. I used to be able to run directv2pc on both my laptop and desktop, but since i reinstalled the network i can see the DVR on the desktop but the e-adapter doesn't show up on the laptop.(net magic pro)
    On the desktop it finds the DVR, lists the saved progs. and descriptions, and will go as far as starting to load them but then i get "an error has occured" and it stops. The advisor gives me a yellow on both the network card and the router, but i'm betting it's a router setting that i have wrong(it was green before when it was working)
    Yes i have all the latest drivers(and firmware) and reinstalled directv2pc and i doubt it's a hardware problem since i recently upgraded to "n", and the 2 computers are running up to speed(285 for the DT and 300 for the LT)
    If anyone has similar hardware and has an idea, would appreciate it.
    thanks

    router-linksys wrt400n dual band
    desktop-linksys wusb600n usb adapter dual band
    laptop-atheros ar5009 'n'
    hddvr-linksys wet601n ethernet adapter dual band

    also for the few days the 'n' was down and i put the old wrt54g back on-line, it worked but was jerky-also another reason i think i have something set wrong on the router.

    ps-am also now a firm beleiver in saving the config files :sure:
     
  5. Feb 1, 2010 #445 of 1021
    dennisj00

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    For both of the posts above, I'd try to temporarily remove the Wireless N from the equation. Order a couple of 100' cat 5 cables from Monoprice (they're $9.00) string them either directly between the HR / PC (with static addresses) or back to the router.

    You could have something locally that's affecting the streaming wirelessly.
     
  6. Feb 1, 2010 #446 of 1021
    robbiecc

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    UPDATE

    well, after playing around a bit more i now have the wet601n (e-adapter) showing up on both machines and they do find the HDDVR and list the recorded progs--just goes to load the recorded program and i get the 'error has occured' msg. gettin closer-still think it's a setting on the router.
     
  7. Feb 3, 2010 #447 of 1021
    kude

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    Alright this is just weird. My ATI 5770 is HCDP compliant, so things were working. Now I inserted an HDCP compliant Yamaha RX-V2065 a/v receiver between the PC and and the monitor, a Samsung HDCP compliant monitor, and things are broken again.

    This time it is not a matter of shutting something off, or if it is it isn't obvious.

    I played a DVD with Cyberlink's Powerdvd 9 ultra, and that works sending PCM but not undecoded digital. The undecoded digital stream is choppy if not inaudible. A undecoded digital stream sent to the video card and then to the a/v receiver should be HDCP kosher.

    Directv2PC was trying to tell me before it just shut off that the HDCP stream was not right. Trying to use Directv2PC shut down the Directv2PC server, and made it disappear. To quote:
    It just so happens ATI released a new driver, so I installed that. That should have got the HDCP right, right? Nope. I get the message above again. So I re-select the video, so now I get:
    So I give up on Cyberlink trying to cooperate with PC/ATI/Yamaha HDCP. I disabled motherboard audio, so there is not a dual path to steal the precious digital stream. Directv2PC is too picky when it comes to this HDCP stuff. And Cyberlink ought to get it together.

    Maybe staying analog is the best when it comes to Directv2PC.
     
  8. Feb 3, 2010 #448 of 1021
    veryoldschool

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    Since this is a "PC app", clearly adding the Yamaha into the loop is the problem.
    I haven't had any problems going from my PC's DVI to my Sony TV's HDMI.
     
  9. Feb 3, 2010 #449 of 1021
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    Hey guys. For some reason the software only recognizes my downstairs receiver. It's weird because they both can see each other (using the new MRV). Any ideas why my PC can't see my other receiver?
     
  10. Feb 3, 2010 #450 of 1021
    veryoldschool

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    The only time I had this, it was the other way: DirecTV2PC worked, but MRV didn't.
    After rebooting everything, I had to reboot my router. This seems to point to the two services using different ports.
     
  11. Feb 3, 2010 #451 of 1021
    CHaynes112

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    Greetings,

    I have 2 quick questions...

    1. When I open DIRECTV2PC, it changes my theme from Windows 7 Aero to Windows 7 Basic. After closing DIRECTV2PC, it restores my theme back to Windows 7 Aero. Is this normal?

    2. Has anyone used a cross-over cable to connect their HD DVR directly to their computer (without the use of a router/switch)? I can get it connected, but it will only link at 10MBps (even when I try to force 100MBps). I get some audio/video stuttering, as I believe the 10MBps limit is hurting me (I have verified this by looking at the network utilization and watching it stay in the high 90's). Has anyone seen this?

    -Thanks
     
  12. Feb 3, 2010 #452 of 1021
    veryoldschool

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    Losing Aero is normal.
    Haven't used a crossover cable, but wonder if your problem is the cable you're using.
     
  13. Feb 3, 2010 #453 of 1021
    dennisj00

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    I'd agree with VOS.

    My Win7 goes to Basic and back.

    And I'd question the cable you're using . . . or possibly the driver on the PC network card might be set incorrectly? Some auto-negotiations spend more time negotiating than transmitting data.
     
  14. Feb 4, 2010 #454 of 1021
    kude

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    1. Yes.
     
  15. Feb 5, 2010 #455 of 1021
    nc88keyz

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    question.


    I have a HTPC case that has a 7" touch screen in it (VGA LCD)

    and a 8600GTS output via dvi to HDMI to ----) Sony STRD5300ES AVR --
    to Mits 73 DLP.

    It says one of your monitors doesnt support HDCP....The VGA lcd is run of DVI to VGA adapter.

    Is it requiring the 7" Touchscreen to be HDCP compliant in this case.

    Nvidia drivers fully up to date / Windows 7 C2D E6420 and onboard realtek spdif out.

    I too have not used Directv2pc in a long while.
     
  16. Feb 6, 2010 #456 of 1021
    SteelDog

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    Well I will try and reboot my router again. It just seems strange that MRV works but DireCTVPC only works for one. I will try again.
     
  17. Feb 8, 2010 #457 of 1021
    CHaynes112

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    The cable was the problem. I quickly signed online and got a diagram of a crossover cable and terminated it (during the initial install). After reading this, I re-evaluated the cable and noticed all 8 wires were in a different place (whereas, there should only be 4 wires different). After researching, I found that there are actually three main cable terminating specs (A, B, and AT&T). I had a cable that was one spec and made the crossover end for another spec. After fixing the end, it immediately linked at 100MBps without all the auto-negotiations. Also, I did view the network utilization again, and saw it spike to 22MBps (way more than my original 10MBps could handle)!!
     
  18. Feb 8, 2010 #458 of 1021
    dennisj00

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    Glald you found your problem!

    I'd venture to say that most of the network problems (excluding wireless and powerline) are cable wiring. . . no matter who installs it, it could work 'perfectly' for surfing or email - you'd never notice it, but the demands of video streaming uncover it.
     
  19. Feb 8, 2010 #459 of 1021
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    For whatever reason the usual standard is 586B, if you stick to that you'll be good in most cases for the future. What makes it more complicated is there are several standards for a crossover, but 586A to 586B is your best best for switch-to-switch which works for device-to-device as well.

    Even easier is gigabit NICs are "auto MDX" (and some 100Mb NICs, too) which means you can just use a regular patch cable and it will "flip" it for you automatically.
     
  20. Feb 9, 2010 #460 of 1021
    kude

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    Just out of curiosity is your 7" monitor extended or clone? Just offhand you can't stream HDCP content to a non HDCP monitor. A DVI connection would check for HDCP compliance while a VGA connection would not, IMHO.

    My understanding is that at the transmitter, 4 repeaters are allowed or 32 devices less repeaters. If you have 4 repeaters, you can have 32-4 other receiver devices attached. So multiple HDCP monitors should not be a problem.

    Just out of curiosity again I checked 7" LCD monitors to see if there are any HDCP compliant ones, but if you have and Nvidia card, there is supposed to be an application that checks HDCP compliance of connected monitors. Sorry I have ATI now so I can't check out this application. You can read the article here: http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/doublesight-ds-70u-smart-7-lcd-usb-monitor/ The Nvidia reference is halfway or so down.

    However, the Cyberlink Directv2PC application is not up to date as far as HDCP handling, it seems.
     
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