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DirecTV's D-HR20P HD DVR

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by newsposter, Apr 3, 2006.

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  1. May 29, 2006 #41 of 118
    Wolffpack

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    Correct!!! DTV thinks it can do what it wants simply because it has NFLST. That's a bad business practice to stand by.
     
  2. May 29, 2006 #42 of 118
    JLucPicard

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    Or they could be waiting to make sure the HR20 is good before putting it on the market?
     
  3. May 29, 2006 #43 of 118
    rfallan

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    Thanks for the info...one last question.

    If I don't want NFL Sunday Ticket, does Dish provide the newer/newest MPEG4 HD DVR unit now?

    Thanks
     
  4. May 29, 2006 #44 of 118
    Earl Bonovich

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    Dish currently has HD-DVRs that are compantible with their newest signals..
     
  5. May 29, 2006 #45 of 118
    carlsbad_bolt_fan

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    That may be. But once again, D* comes in 2nd in the HD DVR market. IIRC, E* had an HD DVR before D*. How could D* let this happen AGAIN? You think D* would have learned. Now E* will be MONTHS ahead in the HD DVR race.
     
  6. May 29, 2006 #46 of 118
    eaadams

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    Can we please not let this thread fall into the D* vs E* debate.
     
  7. May 29, 2006 #47 of 118
    carlsbad_bolt_fan

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    I don't think it's headed that way. But there are those of us (who are D* subscribers) who are voicing our opinion regarding the way D* is rolling out their HD DVR.
     
  8. May 29, 2006 #48 of 118
    rfallan

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    Guys...I appreciate the responses....but let's stay calm. breathe deep.

    All I want to know is if there is a great HD DVR on a progressive satellite tv company, and when approximately will the HR 20 come out?

    thanks.
     
  9. May 29, 2006 #49 of 118
    carlsbad_bolt_fan

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    IIRC, at their annual share holders meeting D* said summertime. Now that has slipped to September.
     
  10. May 29, 2006 #50 of 118
    Herdfan

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    Teays...
    Although a judge could force E* to shut them off if TiVo get its injunction. Not likely, but still a chance.

    I say go with the HR10-250 now. It gets all D*'s current HD channels and D* will have to provide a low/no cost upgrade path once the HR20 comes out and has been debugged.

    I have been recording HD material on my HR10-250 (Now mine are actually HR10-500's:D ) for over 2 years and the ability to time-shift HD can't be beat.
     
  11. May 29, 2006 #51 of 118
    rfallan

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    Thanks Herd...that seems like a logical choice for now. I was just hoping that the HR 20 would be close, so I'd only have to do it once.

    thanks for all your comments.
     
  12. May 30, 2006 #52 of 118
    harsh

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    All except their HD locals; what's the point of offering HD LIL if you can't DVR them?
    Do you have insider information on the upgrade offers?
     
  13. May 30, 2006 #53 of 118
    harsh

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    The choice is only logical if Herdfan is correct about an inexpensive upgrade path. If he isn't, you'll wish you waited for the HR20.

    Think of it this way: there really isn't much new on TV until September or October anyway.
     
  14. May 30, 2006 #54 of 118
    eaadams

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    Yea there is no guarantee that it will be a low no cost upgrade.

    Also you can time shift the HD locals but with use of an OTA antenna.

    And who said it is now pushed back to september? How do we know that?
     
  15. May 30, 2006 #55 of 118
    Wolffpack

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    Harsh, That's the real question, isn't it?

    My gut says the HR20 isn't out because it's got the same problems as the R15 and none of those problems have been solved. Not looking good for DTV.

    One arm of DTV is putting up HD locals on schedule and the NDS (or whatever) arm can't get their DVRs (SD or HD) to work.
     
  16. May 30, 2006 #56 of 118
    Scarpad

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    D* should've never abandoned Tivo. I have the R15 coming Saturday and I'm sure it'll take some getting used to. It can't be worse than Comcast's HD DVR, it constantly scheduled repeats, has missed some programs, has sluggish input acceptance, and has a Phantom program that causes some problems with my Box. I moved to Comcasts box after having a Tivo and I really missed Tivos Software. It is the best in the Buisness and D* and other companies always think they can do better, they clearly have'nt
     
  17. May 30, 2006 #57 of 118
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    They don't think they can develop better boxes, it's just cheaper for them to go that route. And in DirecTV's case, they were going to have to eventually anyways beacause of Murdoch.
     
  18. May 30, 2006 #58 of 118
    Earl Bonovich

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    The "abandoment" of TiVo....

    Yah know, it is a two way street (sure one of those sides is probalby a 5 lane highway, and the other a single lane).

    If you look at the industry.... there is only ONE ONE provider that has TiVo software as the engine for THEIR DVR.... that would be Comcast. And that product is already in trouble before it is even released. (If it is not up to par with the TiVo Series 3 units, then people can opt for that route).

    No other Cable Co, nor Sat provider... And the "combo" units have not really picked up (there are no "TVs" with built in TiVo, and the DVD Combo units are limited in number)

    I am sure DirecTV set a price that they want to pay to continue with the TiVo platform, or they layed out what they wanted to the software to include for their buisness... TiVo came back with their counter.... but it never hooked up.

    So DirecTV decided to use their resources to go at it on their own.
    Just like most of the other providers out there... (go on their own, or contract someone to create them a custom version).

    So..... take it for what it is worth when you think about the "poor" TiVo software.... it is always a two way street. (not necessarily a balanced road, but a road none the less)
     
  19. May 30, 2006 #59 of 118
    eaadams

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    The company making the HR20 is not a contractor, it is a Murdoch company, NDS. It reminds me of that movie "In Good Company" where the whole mega corp idea is synergy. Verry cliche

    I can say that if HD TIVO were available for me for any platform w/o that OTA antena then I would jump on it. But Comcast wont run to my house so whatever.

    At my old house in Sacramento, CA we had access to SureWest and they carry TIVO but I'm not sure if it is in HD.
     
  20. May 30, 2006 #60 of 118
    Wolffpack

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    I wasn't aware NDS had manufacturing facilities. Do you have a source for this info?
     
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