DirecTV's PQ ain't what it used to be

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  1. Mar 18, 2021 #1 of 182
    slovell

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    It appears to me that DirecTV's picture quality has degraded significantly over the last couple of years. It used to be so sharp I could see individual gray hairs on Rachael Maddow's head, not any more. Everything looks like it's been upscaled from SD to 720p to me and that's being optimistic. I don't watch sports so I don't know what their 4k looks like. I can switch to Amazon Prime and the difference between their's and DirecTV's PQ is stunning. Amazon Prime is tack sharp with rich color and deep blacks while DirecTV's is a washed out blurry mess. What is going on with this bunch these days?
     
  2. Mar 18, 2021 #2 of 182
    MysteryMan

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    Granted, the NATIVE feature has been removed but DIRECTV's picture quality still looks good. Much better than upscaled SD to 720p blurry mess you described. Check your equipment settings.
     
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    harsh

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    Many who have switched to (or are demoing) AT&T TV have commented that it offers perceptibly better PQ than DIRECTV so you're not alone in noticing a comparative "deficiency".

    From the testimony, I'd guess the difference isn't nearly as striking as you suggest.
     
  4. Mar 18, 2021 #4 of 182
    Mike1096

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    I haven’t seen anyone mention that a ATT TV picture quality is better than that of DIRECTV. I know AT&T is putting more of their marketing muscle behind the streaming service but I don’t see the comparison saying streaming has the better picture quality.


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  5. Mar 18, 2021 #5 of 182
    harsh

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    There are quite a few such comments in the AT&T TV review thread.

    ATT TV - a little review
     
  6. Mar 18, 2021 #6 of 182
    Davenlr

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    Please do not compare PQ with Rachel Maddow's hair. Seriously. While it may look like she is in a studio, they are working from remotes with green screens, and most of their guests are on webcams, and they are all using Zoom, Cisco or some other method to send the video back to 30 Rock. There are a few shows, I believe Capehart's show, and Johnson's shows on Sunday are actually at 30 Rock, and they are sharp. Concentrate on the graphics, and videos they show and it pops into clarity.

    Maybe after Covid, all will go back to pre-pandemic sharpness. And I cannot believe how many rich and powerful guests that come on that show are only using 480p webcams. It is jawdropping.
     
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    compnurd

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    So while it is way not fair of a comparison to compare a Amazon streaming show to Live TV.. Directv's PQ is still the best for a traditional Sat/Cable company... Your also comparing different TV Inputs and output devices That being said, ATT TV def has it beat mostly due to the higher streaming bit rates
     
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    compnurd

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    Pretty much everyone who has had both says this
     
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    DMRI2006

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    I agree with the OP, there's been a degradation to the overall PQ over the last couple of years. It still looks good, but it's not what it used to be. One of the reasons I left. I did not try ATTV but the PQ on YoutubeTV is notably sharper than Directv right now. Try out some of these streamers for yourself and you can see the difference (some more than others). Also helps to use a quality streaming device like Nvidia Shield Pro.
     
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    compnurd

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    YTTV has bad motion artifacting with sports.. Directv definitely still has them beat
     
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  11. Mar 18, 2021 #11 of 182
    Mike1096

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    Damn. Honestly I’ve never seen it.


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  12. Mar 18, 2021 #12 of 182
    Davenlr

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    It is a pretty big thread, but to summarize, I got into a fight with DirecTv and they agreed to cancel my subscription and waive the ETF if I subbed to ATT TV, which they allowed me to do without a contract.
    I had both for about 2 days, and can honestly say the ATT TV has much better PQ, and more channels in HD (CNNi, Cspan 1 and 2) for example. That was on a Roku TV. Then at the suggestion of members here, I bought a Osprey box from ebay, which has a voice remote (think saying "Go forward three minutes" to skip all those commercials), numeric keypad, and the same channel numbers as DirecTv. The cloud DVR is only 20 hours unless you pay extra, but works ok. It is missing several features of the DirecTv DVR, but it works.
     
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    I've been streaming for many years and the PQ comparison with D* has never changed. The PQ on streaming platforms is always noticeably better than what you get with D*. For the same content. Has D*'s PQ diminished noticeably? I only use D* for sports or news and the PQ doesn't seem to be any better or worse than it was. I use ATVs and I have Amazon Cubes, both platforms have better PQ than D* does. I did use a Shield for a couple of weeks and the speed of the Shield impressed me. The software didn't impress me and back it went.

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  14. Mar 18, 2021 #14 of 182
    Mike1096

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    Noticeably better PQ on streaming? I’m not so sure about that. Ive done my fair share of streaming as well.


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  15. Mar 18, 2021 #15 of 182
    DMRI2006

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    Maybe it's ESPN themselves but I've found the content on their channels especially to be diminished in quality from what it used to be on D*. Just my unscientific thoughts, but it's especially there where I felt the D* quality had dropped. I felt that even before I started auditioning streaming services and then noticed how much better the PQ was with YTTV on the Shield (esp the Pro version). Fubo also looked good but I didn't feel it was quite up to the same level (I did not try ATTV)
     
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    DMRI2006

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    From my experience the best streaming surpasses D* at this point in time at least in terms of picture quality (audio is a whole other story). However there are factors involved which will color that for each user, namely what service you are using, and what platform you are using it on (not to mention the speed and quality of your own isp). All of those makes a huge difference.
     
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  17. Mar 18, 2021 #17 of 182
    Davenlr

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    Watch the frames per second of the service too. Lots of them are saving bandwidth by only sending out 1080p@30 or 720P@60/30. That is why I didnt take up TVision on their intro offer.
     
  18. Mar 18, 2021 #18 of 182
    Mike1096

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    Yeah Tvision sucks. It’s 30fps.


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  19. Mar 18, 2021 #19 of 182
    dtv757

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    Still looks better than my local cable co

    NbA was unwatchable microblocks everywhere via cable .

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  20. Mar 18, 2021 #20 of 182
    Mike1096

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    Lot of microblocks with streaming too.


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