DirecTV's PQ ain't what it used to be

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by slovell, Mar 18, 2021.

  1. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    Yes. Either the Fire TV or the built in apps should give you 4K and send the audio to the AVR.
     
  2. slovell

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    Thank you, much appreciated. I've always wondered what the ARC designation was for on my Monitor 1 HDMI output on the Marantz. lol
    Looks like I've got some switching around to do. The Sony is very impressive straight out of the box without having done any calibration yet. Black level and color saturation are way better than the Panny plasma. This unit should be really impressive once I get it calibrated. Very happy with it so far in HD, should be a Holy S#$t moment when I get it set up for 4k.
     
  3. codespy

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    I don’t like the stock remote either. Have you tried the AppleTV remote on your iPhone? For us, it’s way easier to use along with the search options, and it will control multiple AppleTV devices on your home network.
     
  4. Davenlr

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    The Fire TV should recognize the 4K TV when you plug it in. You might need to go into settings and select 4K on the Fire TV. The apps on the TV will already be 4K. I had a Marantz, and the ARC (Audio Return Channel) did not work with my TCL, so *IF* you get it all hooked up, and put the Marantz on TV, and dont get any audio from the TV apps or FireTv , you can also run an optical cable from the TV to the Marantz. All this eARC and CEC stuff is relatively new, and some combinations dont work. I am sure yours will work fine being a new TV.

    I know you said you were thinking of getting a new AVR, but I would hold off if you can work it out with your current one, because the current chips in the new AVRs do not pass the full 48Gb/s of the HDMI 2.1 spec, so waiting until they have a new passthrough chip that works would be the best option for now.
     
  5. harsh

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    As you well know, upconverted HD is not 4K. Your assertion was that AT&T TV was logically better than DIRECTV because AT&T TV was 2160p but that's not the case. Whether your streamer or your TV does the upconversion probably plays a role, but both are HD sources and can reasonably compared apples to apples.

    Those comparisons almost universally give the nod to AT&T TV in terms of PQ.
     
  6. Rich

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    That would disturb me.

    Rich
     
  7. compnurd

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    It’s not a big deal. I was able to adjust my TV’s in 2 min
     
  8. harsh

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    It should be noted that this is a stupidity of the Osprey (AT&T Device) rather than the AT&T TV service itself.
     
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  9. Mike1096

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    Correct. Service itself in terms of PQ and sound is top notch. Yes, there are some bugs here and there but that’s the case with all live tv streaming services right now. Osprey, right now, is ATT TV’s Achilles heel.


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  10. cypherx

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    Would I even need an AT&T set top box if I went with their internet delivered service? I have Android TV, isn’t it just an app? My Sony TV has voice remote and all those features. Rather have the signal come straight into the tv and have it processed there.

    I appreciate the satellite for not using internet bandwidth. I think I get 2.5TB a month on my 200/20mb plan. I’d have to pay another $30 a month to go to the 500/50 plan to get 4TB a month of data allowance with my cable company. Although our internet is reliable, I’m not sure about having all our eggs in one basket yet.

    In our cable system the OTA HD channels match then sharpness of what you get with an antenna. The traditional cable channels though while slightly sharper than DirecTV, are noisier. You can see the little blocks around sharp text and logos, and sometimes the clay face effect in skin tones. DirecTV’s smoothness hides all that. DirecTV also handles motion much better. On cable they tend to compress the heck out of high motion scenes leaving to loss of detail and visible blocking effects.

    In my option DirecTV is better than Cable, even though it’s a little softer... that helps hide the artificial digital look. Heck the pros always say turn the sharpness way down on that TV and disable any kind of edge enhancement or image processing. They prefer that smooth film look.

    But the crispness and clarity of a 4K demo roll from a YouTube or some wildlife special on Apple TV+, or even the rich colors of an animated Pixar film on Disney+ all are no match for broadcast tv.
     
  11. Davenlr

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    There is no app for Android TV, even though it runs on an Android TV box. You can side load it on a Shield, there is a stripped down app for the Fire TV. It MAY have an app for your TV. The point is, they WANT you to buy their $120 box if you want the whole user experience (channel numbers, Guide button, List button, voice control...all missing from the Roku and Fire TV apps.
     
  12. compnurd

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    And you can buy the box for 50 bucks pretty much everywhere
     
  13. cypherx

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    Eh I’m not buying any box. I have a working HR44, C41 and HR24.
     
  14. slovell

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    Got everything hooked up and working last night. The only thing I lost is the volume level window from the Marantz when I switch to the Amazon Fire TV. I still have it on satellite just not on the ARC connected Fire TV, no biggie.
     
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  15. raott

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    But you are paying a monthly fee for the privilege of using two of those, no?
     
  16. NashGuy

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    But the box is also part of what distinguishes (in a positive way) AT&T TV from other streaming cable TV services because it has a full-fledged cable TV remote control that's designed specifically for use with that service, channel number buttons and all.
     
  17. NashGuy

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    I'm not saying that they couldn't improve their apps in some ways but, due to the simple remotes that come with Roku, Fire TV and Apple TV devices, the user experiences they offer won't ever be able to fully replicate what you get on AT&T TV's custom box and remote. Obviously there aren't 0-9 buttons or a guide button or list button on a Roku remote.
     
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  18. compnurd

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    How the F is part of that there problem?? Roku Apple and Fire don't have dedicated buttons for all of that
     
  19. compnurd

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    That is like Wow lol
     
  20. Davenlr

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    I was planning on buying a Shield, which you can use a keyboard with number keys, and I am guessing if I searched, I could find the combination to send the guide and list commands from it. It doesnt matter now, since I found out the new Shield is coming out in Q4 with 3x faster processor and Android 11, so I just ordered a second Osprey for now. I hope the new shield has a better remote.
     

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