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Disappointed in DISH HD Picture Quality on 4K TV

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by TheVillagesGuy, Mar 2, 2017.

  1. Mar 2, 2017 #1 of 38
    TheVillagesGuy

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    The faces of people are way too smooth.....like they have no detail at all. Is this normal with DISH? Would DirecTV be better quality?
     
  2. Mar 2, 2017 #2 of 38
    lparsons21

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    Dish's picture is sharp and crisp on my Sharp 70" 4K.
     
  3. Mar 2, 2017 #3 of 38
    jimmie57

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    It is possible that you need to do a lot of experimenting on all the different settings available to adjust your TV to what you like. My settings are quite different than the 46" LCD that it replaced.
     
  4. Mar 2, 2017 #4 of 38
    TheVillagesGuy

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    Already did that and it is on three different TV's. I am more picky than most with things like this. Some people think it looks great and I think it looks off.
     
  5. Mar 2, 2017 #5 of 38
    lparsons21

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    You've solved your own problem. Because you are very picky about these things and DirecTV seems to fit the bill for you better, then get Direct and forget about Dish. Problem solved!! :)
     
  6. Mar 2, 2017 #6 of 38
    jimmie57

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    Try increasing the "Sharpness" of the picture. My old LCD was set to 15 and the new 4k is set to 45.
     
  7. Mar 3, 2017 #7 of 38
    inkahauts

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    What tv? Turn off all the smooth motion junk.

    And how do blu rays look to you?
     
  8. Mar 4, 2017 #8 of 38
    P Smith

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    just switch to 4k source and enjoy PQ
    DTV or streaming will be good for that
     
  9. Mar 9, 2017 #9 of 38
    mrinker

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    I agree Dish quality is less. I was with D for 12 years and in Feb switched to Dish. Lot more blur of faces especially if they are farther in the background. I've tried numerous settings and while it has been somewhat improved I am still considering paying my ETF and using Dtv again. The smallest mosquito noise etc that my eyes picks up is enough to ruin my personal viewing pleasure when watching via Dish. I visit family a week ago in Nebraska where they have Cox Cable and even their cable was clearer than Dish. I love Dish equipment Hopper 3 which makes it hard to leave but for me PQ is priority.
     
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  10. unr1

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    Yea, when I switched from fios to dish I noticed a significant decrease in picture quality.
     
  11. n3vino

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    Leon...
    I'm on Direct TV and I'm thinking of switching to dish to get the new customer discounts. But I hesitate to do so because Dish is HD Lite, lower quality HD than Direct TV. At least that's what everyone says. Dish is 1440 x 1080I where Direct is 1960 x 1080I. My TV and my AVR upscale to 1080P. When I upscale with AVR, my TV already gets an upscaled picture. I might go with Spectrum cable because they do not have a contract, although they do have a set up fee. But $100.00 for TV, 100 bps internet, and phone which I won't use, is quite tempting. Right now I pay $158.00, taxes included for the lowest plan on D* and 18 bps on Uverse internet. I'm going to check out streaming tv for quality.

    I don't know what Spectrums HD resolution is. I know they are low quality HD, even if they say crisp HD in their commercials, I wonder if I could upscale Dish or Spectrum to a higher HD using my AVR. My aVR has upscaling capabilities. Any Ideas anyone?
     
  12. MysteryMan

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    Ever hear of the "garbage in garbage out" rule? If the content or signal is low quality upscaling would be like putting a silk hat on a pig. I get my internet through Spectrum and seen their HD display in their office where I pay my bill. It's not as good as DIRECTV's.
     
  13. James Long

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    If you read it on the Internet it must be true.

    The resolutions are from a few years ago ... I have not seen any recent results to prove that DISH still uses that level of down-res on their 1080i feeds (the 720p feeds were full frame at the time). DIRECTV also used less than full frame for 1080i for a while while waiting for new satellites. One could say DIRECTV invented HD Lite.

    Every signal received via satellite is compressed in some way. Based on the bandwidth allocated per channel, DIRECTV is compressed less but even they are at the mercy of their sources. "Everything in HD" has led to providers choosing their own compression to get the signal from their systems to cable and satellite carriers.
     
  14. peds48

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    All pictures displaying on your TV must match your TVs native resolution. Whether the upscaling is done by your STB, AVR, or TV that is for you to choose.

    One thing is for sure, the less the signal gets manipulated before it gets to your TV the better the picture is.


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  15. inkahauts

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    Directv did that before there was hardly any hd in the first place. Heck, half the stations only a few hours of programming a week. going back to the dawn of hd to compare what there is today is a bit misdirective. Dish has always done it. Directv hasn't since d10 went live.. kind of different....
     
  16. inkahauts

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    Not true at all, sometimes outboard scalers are much better than anything a tv has. just depends on what you use. with that said, directv receivers scale very well.
     
  17. peds48

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    Excuse me? What is not true?

    I said the less the signal gets manipulated the better. The is no number there. If you believe a picture can be manipulated 20 times and still be the same as when it started then your are awfully wrong.




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  18. n3vino

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    Leon...
    I believe that to be true. D* sends a 1080I and my set is a 1080P so I believes it upscales to 1080P 60. When I use my AVR, the AVR upscales to 1080P 60. I don't know if the TV does anything else with that. My Blue ray player sends 1080P 24 and goes through my aVR without upscaling. My blue ray player also upscales regular DVD's to near HD quality and 24 frames, and my AVR passes it through without upscaling. When I display info the tv always shows 1920 x 1080p. I wonder if dish would be upscaled from 1440 x 1080I to 1920 x 1080p with either the AVR or if the TV would do it and if it would actually make a difference. I know upscaling is done to the horizontal lines but I don't know if the vertical lines are upscaled.
     
  19. James Long

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    DISH receiver outputs are 1920x1080i or 1920x1080p (specific VOD content) or 1280x720p for HD output. The decompression/rescaling from whatever is transmitted via satellite is done by the DISH receiver (including outputting 720p channels as 1080i and 1080i channels as 720p - following the one output format chosen by the customer).

    What happens after that output is up to the AVR/TV.
     
  20. P Smith

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    it's not upscaling, it's just DE-INTERLACING
     

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