Well after spending all afternoon trying to get the DISH installed, it was determined to be a no-go. I believe the installer was fairly new to trying to tune in the 129 HD SAT, as we kept getting a yellow strong signal on it (VIP 622) but he couldn't explain why it was yellow and saying wrong satelite. He says the 129 SAT is on the horizon and where I live we just can't tune in the horizon very well. (I have trees in my back yard that are taller than my house and hour community is hilly). He did give it an honest try and I feel bad that he won't get paid, but I feel just as bad for myself as I wanted to get away from COX cable. I guess I know why I don't see much dish use in Williamsburg VA...in effect there is no HD available for it...only locals and regular channels.. Can someone comment if what I was told is accurate? Is the HD Sat on the horizon?