Dish AutoHop vs Networks Commercial Skipping Discussion

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  1. sigma1914

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    You've been an active member here for 3 years, where talk of the Hopper has predated any commercial for it, but you first heard of it on tv?
     
  2. Marlin Guy

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    Yeah.
     
  3. RasputinAXP

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    He was on the other side of the fence at the time.
     
  4. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member

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    You still have a hard time missing front page news here and tech site news... especially with such a badass game changing piece of equipment.
     
  5. Marlin Guy

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    I sure hope you mean that I was with DirecTV. :lol:
     
  6. RasputinAXP

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    Well yeah...where's any other fences around here? :p
     
  7. James Long

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    Well, it is more like a line of bollards. People can swing both ways across the line. It usually isn't a problem as long as they are polite whichever side they are posting on. And they remember the topic of the thread. :)
     
  8. SayWhat?

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    More like one of these. Clickety-clacking back and forth without really getting anywhere.


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  9. phrelin

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    You have to admire Charlie's ability to reach out and embrace wider social issues. From The Hollywood Reporter:
    EDIT: The LA Times article explains more about what the hearing was about but also has this gem:
     
  10. Marlin Guy

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    I love this man! :D
     
  11. phrelin

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    Me too. He loves to fight for truth, justice and the American way. Here's more about his exchange with Dingell:
     
  12. Stewart Vernon

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    Isn't cutting someone off when they are talking a live-version of AutoHop? ;)
     
  13. inkahauts

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    !rolling
     
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    phrelin

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    Just in case this conversation might die, the LA Times Company Town - The Business Behind The Show column/blog brought it up again with a rehash more oriented to the big media company view and this reminder:
     
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    phrelin

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    Yeah, I just saw that. The full ruling is here. Interesting reading.

    The THR article summarizing the situation says:
     
  17. James Long

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    Oh joy. So there will be active cases on both coasts deciding the different parts of the issue?
     
  18. James Long

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    There have been some recent software updates on the Hopper that should be noted.

    As before, PTAT is not enabled when a new Hopper is installed.
    When the user activates PTAT they choose the channels (one or all four) of the major network channels they want to record.
    When the user activates PTAT they choose the days of the week (one or all seven) they wish to record programs.
    When the user activates PTAT they choose how long to keep the programs ... choices range from 2 to 8 days.

    It is more than just an on-off switch.

    As for AutoHOP, I have noticed that the default is now "no". When playing back an AutoHOP enabled program the "use AutoHOP" was default ... now "no" is default.
     
  19. Mojo Jojo

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    From http://paidcontent.org/2012/07/26/dishs-latest-hopper-tweak-reeks-of-legal-positioning/

    Dish's latest Hopper tweak reeks of legal positioning

    By Daniel Frankel

    Jul. 26, 2012, 1:56pm

    Facing a legal showdown with the broadcast networks over commercial-skipping features in its digital video recorders, Dish Network has quietly made several operating-system tweaks designed to put the ad-circumvention process more in the hands of the user.

    This could be crucial in the satellite's legal battle with broadcasters over these features, given that subscribers now have more control of how they're used.

    (Please visit the link for more...)
     
  20. strikes2k

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    IANAL so can't really comment on the legal ramifications of these changes, but I find them very useful and don't see why DISH wouldn't have implemented them anyways.
     
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