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DISH becoming 2nd rate?

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by napabill, Aug 1, 2007.

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  1. grooves12

    grooves12 Godfather

    Oct 27, 2005
    He wasn't JUST asking a question... it was a very pointed question that could be construed as more of a rant/bash on the provider, which if I remember right are a violation of this board's rules aren't they?

    A legitimate question would have been... Does anyone know if/when Dish will add ________ channel?? If no plans, which other alternative providers currently offer it?
  2. Ron Barry

    Ron Barry 622 Tips & Trick Keeper

    Dec 10, 2002
    The no bash rule pertains to the Support forums. In the general area we are more loose in the moderation.

    After reading this thread.. My comment would be that we has humans perceive things mainly from our own perspective when making comments like the OP made. This is very true in the DBS world. To the Sports guy there is not enough Sports or a certain sports channel that interest is a must have and therefore the user perceives the company they are using is behind because he sees the channel being provided by a competitor. Same goes with HD locals etc.

    Just the other day a co-worker popped into my cube to tell me that he had a look E* at his Dad's and was impressed with the amount of HD content and the 622. Just last night I really enjoyed watching a great Angel/Mariner game on FSN in HD on my 622. I guess to the YES fans, Dish would also be behind. It really all depends on your particular situation (Location) and your viewing habits who is ahead and who is not. It is all a perception thing and in the end each person needs to weigh the product (E*, D* etc) delivers as a whole and in my personal opinion determination of 2nd rate can't be made on the existence of one or two channels one desires.

    If this is the only measuring stick that the OP uses for satisfaction, then I would suggest moving to a vendor that provides those two channels and be happy. In my opinion the lack of these channels is not a measure of 2nd rate, but just a fact and may change over time.

    Based on what I know today. Dish provides a respectable amount of HD content to meet most customer needs and based on the announcements things are only getting better..
  3. Brad B

    Brad B Cool Member

    May 26, 2006
    I'm getting tired of having HD channels drop on 129 transponder 27. I've put up with this for almost 2 years. I thought Dish would have fixed this by now, but still going on. I am seriously thinking of going with Comcast full time. Comcast has all the locals in HD and I'm not going to miss those Voom channels that much if I do quit Dish.
  4. grog

    grog Godfather

    Jul 2, 2007
    I love Voom..... :) :) :)
  5. thefunks67

    thefunks67 Godfather

    Feb 4, 2007

    Why did you change your Avatar?

  6. mopee

    mopee New Member

    Aug 3, 2007
    I live on the other side of the state from you, in walla walla. I finally deceided to fix the problem of 129 by adding another dish 500 antenna and taking down the 1000 antenna. Now 129 never has the problems and I can watch the Mariners in HD without problems. When I finally got 129 to "lock" in I was amazed I could even receive 129, because it is futher west than either 110 or 119. When e technicans put up the 1000 dish and put the LNB's in there yoke, 129 was on the wrong side, it was on the left side not the right, or at least it was for me. Don't know if this helps but before I had one 1000 antenna and all kinds of problems, now I have two 500 antenna's and no problems with any of the satellites.

  7. Ron Barry

    Ron Barry 622 Tips & Trick Keeper

    Dec 10, 2002
    Why not... ;) The previous one was a picture of one of my dogs and this is a picture of a bird I took at a local Aquarium. I seem to be on a pictures i have taken kick lately. I change it from time to time just because I am a fun guy. :hurah:

    I also occassional change my sig. My sig actually on the surface may appear to be odd, but there is deeper meaning to the words in the phrases contained it. Ofcourse I am not referring to my Dish list .. No extra meaning there. ;)
  8. Brad B

    Brad B Cool Member

    May 26, 2006
    I have two dishes for my system. Three if you count the 148 one that they disconected when they added my third dish. I'm still getting drops on my 129 signal tonight watching espn2. It sucks.
  9. man215

    man215 AllStar

    May 12, 2006
    I wish the Sat. Company was still in business. Voom was just starting to add allot of channels when it went out of business. I would still have it today if it was still available. Can't stand to see any pics of James Dolan. He killed off Voom.:mad:
  10. napabill

    napabill Cool Member

    Oct 26, 2004
    I noticed with some dismay that the new HD channels coming later this month, that the SF Bay Area FSN is not included, while several FSN's are. Guess I just don't understand why they can't negotiate to include all of them. Flamed at the Bay Area FSN and they said it was in Dish's court.
  11. whatchel1

    whatchel1 Hall Of Fame

    Jan 10, 2006
    Dolan didn't kill off Voom his stockholders out voted him. He wanted to try and keep it going but Rainbow Vision owned by Cable Vision didn't think it was going to show a profit and voted to sell off the sat to try and recover losses.
  12. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    Perhaps I need a memory upgrade ... IIRC Charles Dolan was the good guy in this matter with the son James Dolan being the one leading the charge to cut the losses on the Voom service (Rainbow DBS).

    In any case, the Voom channels ended up on a more stable platform.
  13. HIPAR

    HIPAR Icon

    May 15, 2005
    It comes down to something like this:

    If Dish isn't providing a channel that you think is essential to your viewing pleasure and that channel is available to you from another provider, then Dish is second rate.

    --- CHAS
  14. Mikey

    Mikey Hall Of Fame

    Oct 26, 2004
    The LNB for 129 will always be left of the one for 119, if you're in the northern hemisphere. Remember that you're working with the signal's reflection off the curved dish, going back up into the LNB.
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