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Dish & Direct tv--Any signal or Picture difference?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by spummerr, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    Heh.... but wouldn't that person also fit in one of my categories? Which one applies to you? (I think I know from a previous post.)
  2. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    Did you pay attention during the transition to digital? The FCC had nightmares trying to even provide a second digital channel to all the stations in some markets, and there was lots of interference and overlap. Now that each station only has one channel again, there isn't any room for more bandwidth. To do what you proposed the FCC would not only have had to provide a second channel, but a whole second broadcast spectrum separate from the first. Flash-cut was never an option.

    It's true that they could go MPEG4 today, and they can do that for their secondary channels. But absent a large installed base of tuners, such a move would bankrupt the industry. Such is always the danger of adopting a standard in the digital age - a better standard is always just around the corner. I don't see the government doing a second round of tuner box giveaways...

    The FCC never needed to give every station two channels, that was a fiasco as you say. The top ten channels is all that needed it, not more than about ten channels where doing hd till after the switchover anyway. And since all this spectrum is free, they should have been happy with that and if not told to simply jump to Hi Definition earlier if they wanted. that alone would have pushed everyone to prepare with digital converters. Another option would have been to split the transition up into two parts if they really felt the need to give everyone two channels, and had two deadlines, one for the first group anyone for the second group. Bt since so many didn't bother going Hi Definition if at all until after the transition, they didn't need two channels ever.

    And yeah, going mpeg4 today would be a nightmare. I am sure we will see another change in the next twenty years to another standard, but I really hope they are smarter next time.
  3. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    Look, its all decent now, and it all could be even better, and likely will be some day, but even when we get the next better we will debate about who has the better better picture again.... :)
  4. sregener

    sregener Godfather

    Apr 17, 2012
    You show a great deal of ignorance on the importance of broadcast television, particularly to the elected leaders of the country who wish to ensure that everyone can see their vital and important political ads. And I assume you're saying top 10 channels in each market, not 10 channels across the country. And that is precisely where the problem was: in areas with overlapping metropolitan areas, there simply wasn't room for 10 additional channels. "Negative, Ghostrider, the pattern is full." Consider the NYC/PA/Baltimorre/DC area. There's not a single channel available that will not result in loss of signal coverage for another channel. They squeezed them in for the transition, but it caused reception problems for people.

    As for the "spectrum is free" idea, I suppose you think these stations have paid nothing for their licenses. And if you read the broadcasters' inside magazines on the subject, many of them were nearly bankrupted by the digital transition. Even now, their future survival is in doubt. We may soon see the day where broadcast television ceases to exist altogether. Whether you think that is a good thing or not depends on whether you believe people in poverty should be able to watch television.
  5. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    Hmmmmm. A TV in every home? Probably better than a chicken in every pot.
  6. Jaspear

    Jaspear Godfather

    May 16, 2004
    Yeah, those of us who feel that there is a noticeable difference that does bother them, but won't leave because of other factors.
  7. Grandude

    Grandude RichardParker II

    Oct 21, 2004
    Ha! I don't see any cost/benefit to having both.

    You probably own a Kalamazoo outdoor grill too. :eek2:
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  8. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

    Feb 27, 2006
    Yea I have to agree, Americans piss away so much money!
  9. gov

    gov Legend

    Jan 11, 2013
    Heh, heh, I know what everyone is talking about when they get into these big go rounds on which is better, LOL!!

    The Dish RF remote is really a nice piece of technology.

    The DirecTV feature that automatically programs a 2 way remote is neat too, WHEN IT WORKS, Grr.

    Love all the features on the DirecTV receivers.

    Really great to have RFD in HD on Dish

    I have several D* HDDVRs, and a Dish 722, gobs of recording capacity.

    Clients of mine that call with either service I can help over the phone now, and I am getting better at all the features of the Dish GUI.

    Respect of my peers who install for one or the other, "Man! You've got BOTH?!?!?!?!" I am revered as a local deity now, LOL.

    Like the look of having both dishes on the roof, and they both are functional.

    Easier to mirror on the Dish side, and I have many customers who do that, and I mirror 2 D* boxes and have quite a few clients with that set up too.

    I get to make posts like this, which is a rush.

    The WWOR,WPIX, KWGN, KTLA etc. package on Dish is a nice plus, I don't think I have any E* clients with that feature, I might brag it up a bit and see if anyone else would like it.

    Long time D* customer, I'd never get rid of that, but after a month on E*, wish I had done that years ago too.
  10. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    I've often considered having both but can never come up with a way to package it out that makes any kind of financial sense. Way too much duplication as far as I can see.
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