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DISH Disappointed with CBS' Interference with CNET's "Best of CES" Awards

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by tsmacro, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. Jan 14, 2013 #41 of 126
    scooper

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    Well - that question has a couple of answers -

    #1 - For local stations that CBS is the owner / operator - they certainly can do that if they want - the other networks can do the same thing IF THEY want.

    #2 - For AFFILIATES of CBS network (and other affiliates) - CBS can't directly direct that. However - CBS could apply pressure to them to make it difficult for the affiliates to continue to be carried by Dish or to keep their CBS affiliation.

    It comes down to dollar$ and cent$ - Until the networks say their programming can't be carried by Dish - you'll know that they're just blowing smoke - i.e. it's worth more money to them to keep that programming in front of our eyes.
     
  2. Jan 14, 2013 #42 of 126
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    Stewart Vernon

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    That is essentially what CBS seems to be threatening via lawsuit... that IF they can't win the suit to get Dish to drop the features... then in the next contract they will try to negotiate it out.

    As Scooper said... CBS-owned affiliates could easily be dropped if CBS wishes to not negotiate. non-CBS-owned LiLs would be harder for CBS to control, though they could pressure them to play hardball with Dish.
     
  4. Jan 14, 2013 #44 of 126
    James Long

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    Don't forget that CBS is Viacom ... The last national renewal for Viacom channels on DISH (2010) did not go well. I do not know which year their last "multi-year agreement" runs through, but CBS/Viacom tied their owned & operated broadcast channels with their satellite channels. If they decide to withhold programming it will be more than just a few major market's locals.

    Also don't forget that Viacom went dark on DirecTV (2012) ... so they are willing to leave a provider while negotiating a deal. But they will eventually come around.

    Hopefully the issue will make its way through the courts before the next renewal talks commence. I would hate to see CBS/Viacom try to avenge a loss in court by pulling the channels ... but killing the Hopper is a non-starter.
     
  5. Jan 15, 2013 #45 of 126
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    Had CBS said, "We won't award the "new and innovative, Share your DISH programming with a Neighbor box, until it's lawsuits from DISH Network and DirecTV are resolved, Charlie would have applauded their actions.

    If it's a great invention, it can get an award next year, after the lawsuits are settled.
     
  6. Jan 15, 2013 #46 of 126
    JosephF

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    The biggest joke to me is that this product was even up for best of show.

    I mean come on, the Hopper has been out for awhile now (and it is debatable if it is even the best Whole Home DVR) and Sling has been around for years. You're telling me that a merging of these two products is the best new product out there!

    Give me a break :nono2:
     
  7. Jan 15, 2013 #47 of 126
    SayWhat?

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    I don't really see the logic in a provider voluntarily depriving themselves of millions of viewers because a few might use a new device to skip some commercials during some programs.
     
  8. Jan 15, 2013 #48 of 126
    Curtis0620

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    Advertisers pay for those viewers to see their ads. Prime Time is the big time for advertisers. So they will reduce their ad fees and to make up for it, the networks will charge DISH higher re-trans fees.

    All for just a FEW Commercials skipped.

    Seems worth it to me.
     
  9. Jan 15, 2013 #49 of 126
    BrianB

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    CNET specifically called out the functionality of being able to transfer shows to a tablet for offline and away from home viewing.

    Sorry if I missed it, but didn't see this link posted yet from the editor in chief: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30677_3-57563877-244/the-2013-best-of-ces-awards-cnets-story/
     
  10. Jan 15, 2013 #50 of 126
    tsmacro

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    This really seems to have worked out pretty badly for CBS, the person that made this decision should be fired. I mean if the Hopper with Sling had won that award, outside of a small group of techie types, very few people would've ever even known it had won in the first place and it would've been quickly forgotten. Now this has become a big brouhaha and CBS has managed by this action to not only heap all sorts of negative publicity on themselves but also gave more publicity to Dish and their Hopper than would've ever occurred otherwise. :nono2:
     
  11. Jan 15, 2013 #51 of 126
    P Smith

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    I'm completely disagree with that panel who did pick the model, the CES demo item.

    We are, customers, should vote !
    Only AFTER first months of using in MASS, not by the "looker" at dish booth.
    We are, who are still have problems with 922 (722s), we are who cannot get properly working Sling adapter with Hopper [2000].

    We, not they !
     
  12. Jan 15, 2013 #52 of 126
    puckwithahalo

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    1) Pretty much everything at CES is a demo product.

    2) It's a best in show award, not a consumers' choice award. How are we supposed to choose best in show for a show we didn't go to?
     
  13. Jan 15, 2013 #53 of 126
    SayWhat?

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    My point being, if they pull all programming from Dish, they'll lose all ad revenue based on how many million potential viewers?

    A much bigger loss than that of a few who might use the skip feature.
     
  14. Jan 15, 2013 #54 of 126
    P Smith

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    Who the "eaters" of the awards?
    We.

    We are as consumers/customers to whom the cNet and engadgets, etc will shove the half-baked devices to our throats the "award" as push to buy/subscribe !
     
  15. Jan 15, 2013 #55 of 126
    puckwithahalo

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    So what you are saying is you would rather have no evaluations at all?
     
  16. Jan 15, 2013 #56 of 126
    James Long

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    It is not the same thing. CBS is not a party to your theoretical service sharing lawsuit. In that example, CBS would be taking a moral stand to support someone they felt was wronged. Not a self serving decision.

    It isn't new next year ... that award will have to go to the "Hopper 3". :D
     
  17. Jan 15, 2013 #57 of 126
    domingos35

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    In the end the Hooper was the winner and nobody can take that away.
    not even directv :D
     
  18. Jan 16, 2013 #58 of 126
    JosephF

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    I still say that if this is the best thing to come out of CES, the industry is in a majorly sad state.
     
  19. Jan 20, 2013 #59 of 126
    celticpride

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    DID you guys see the full page ad DISH had in sundays L.A.TIMES? Tells how dish got the award for best in show and how cbs goes to great lenghts to keep you from ad-skipping technology :hurah:
     
  20. Jan 20, 2013 #60 of 126
    Hoosier205

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    Yep. Yet another example of Charlie poking the very industry he relies on and must negotiate with directly in the eye.
     

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