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Dish drops AMC (+WeTV, IFC & Sundance)

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by lparsons21, May 4, 2012.

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  1. May 25, 2012 #301 of 1922

    DoyleS Icon

    Oct 21, 2002
    El Dorado...
    There was a Dish ad in the San Jose Mercury News this morning showing all of the packages and AMC was not listed. I guess it could be a problem signing up new customers and then dropping a channel from the ad you ran.
  2. May 25, 2012 #302 of 1922
    Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    $6.50 wouldn't come close to cover 50 cents per channel increases.

    If there are 100 channels in the bottom tier, 50 cents per channel would be $50.

    That's why this has to be reigned in... and a channel that (as I keep repeating) only had 9% of the number of paying customers actually watch its highest rated show ever on one night.
  3. May 25, 2012 #303 of 1922

    sregener Godfather

    Apr 17, 2012
    Last I checked, religious channels are practically free. Shopping channels pay to be included in the packages, so they shouldn't count either. And while AMC is only one channel, I haven't seen anyone saying that IFC is also demanding a $0.50 increase, WeTV also wants $0.50, or that Sundance wants $0.50. From what I can see, we're talking about a $0.35 increase for all 4 of those channels. So we're down under a dime per channel in increases, and after we subtract out the channels that don't charge anything or pay, and we take into account that these contracts last 4-5 years, I'm willing to bet we'd be under the $5/year increase in price.

    AMC's demand for double seems unreasonable to me. They aren't twice as good as they used to be. But I'd rather see this negotiated and brought to a reasonable $0.15-$0.20 increase to keep churn down.
  4. May 25, 2012 #304 of 1922

    SayWhat? Know Nothing

    Jun 6, 2009
    I'm not sure anybody really knows that for sure. I think that was just a speculative number.

    For Charlie to put his foot down, there must have been more to it.
  5. May 25, 2012 #305 of 1922
    Ira Lacher

    Ira Lacher Icon

    Apr 24, 2002
    Right. And his well-documented ego had nothing to do with it.

  6. May 25, 2012 #306 of 1922

    inazsully Icon

    Oct 3, 2006
    It will never be reigned in. If there is anything history has taught us, prices will always go up. Costs go up, advertising costs go up, gas prices go up, housing costs go up, food prices go up, tuition costs go up, utility costs go up. One of the few things that have stayed about the same is the cost of TV's.
  7. May 25, 2012 #307 of 1922

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    Prices fluctuate over the long run, and TVs have declined in price over the last 50 years or so. Waning natural resources are likely to have few meaningful declines, so, yes, the trend is up, way up for gas, oil, fertilizers; all of which affect food prices.

    As to satellite pricing of content from the providers, it will trend up, but if it goes up too far too fast, they damage the golden goose (the machine that induces us to pay and pay more). Reining in is necessary.
  8. May 25, 2012 #308 of 1922
    Marlin Guy

    Marlin Guy Hall Of Fame

    Apr 8, 2009
    All of this talk about AMC made me actually look at the channel in the guide.
    I thought maybe I was missing something. I wasn't.
  9. May 25, 2012 #309 of 1922

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    You should check out Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, Mad Men, The Killing, & Hell On Wheels.
  10. May 25, 2012 #310 of 1922

    Dish97 AllStar

    Dec 19, 2009
    You haven't missed anything in at least a dozen years. Garbage channel. I say drop it!
  11. May 25, 2012 #311 of 1922

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    It's been asked of all of us to not denigrate any channel. Tastes differ, families differ, and it helps keep things civil here when we don't make crap-on posts. Please.
  12. May 25, 2012 #312 of 1922

    Chihuahua Legend

    Sep 8, 2007
    As I have stated earlier, I pretty much gave up on American Movie Classics about a decade ago.
  13. May 26, 2012 #313 of 1922

    phrelin Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Jan 18, 2007
    In recent years they have had some of the best written and produced original scripted drama on TV, on a par with HBO and the other premiums. But, the number of shows has been limited and most lack mass appeal compared to the cost of production, also much like premiums.

    But the critics love the AMC effort, just as they do HBO. Unfortunately they are trying to survive as a regular cable channel.
  14. May 26, 2012 #314 of 1922

    onebadmofo AllStar

    May 24, 2012
    All I know is I was close to a switch to Dish the last few days til I saw this. Sorry, not giving up Walking Dead...
  15. May 26, 2012 #315 of 1922
    Mojo Jojo

    Mojo Jojo Legend

    Mar 14, 2012
    You may wait to see if the channels will get dropped as we are getting closer to June or if the channels stay probably due to a last-minute agreement.
  16. May 26, 2012 #316 of 1922

    SayWhat? Know Nothing

    Jun 6, 2009
    See, I don't get that kind of thinking. There has never been a show on TV in my entire viewing history that I absolutely had to see no matter what. And I've been around for some of the biggest shows in television history including MASH, Dallas and Star Trek.

    I can't fathom the idea that someone would make a financial decision based on a television show. Especially now when shows come out on disc in a few months (or weeks). Then you can watch them as often as you want.
  17. May 26, 2012 #317 of 1922

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    And that's O.K. Diff strokes diff folks......
  18. May 26, 2012 #318 of 1922

    Jaspear Godfather

    May 16, 2004
    I do believe you've hit upon the solution. AMC re-brands as a premium, goes ad free and charges an appropriate rate for doing so. Charlie moves it to the Blockbuster package and sticks it right next to Epix. Since the mass appeal for the original content (for the most part) does not exist, why beat a dead horse trying to survive as basic service? I'd much rather watch their original content without commercial interruption and I'd be willing to pay a premium to do it.
  19. May 26, 2012 #319 of 1922

    inazsully Icon

    Oct 3, 2006
    Mash, Dallas, and Star Trek were never dropped. They just ended production, as did long running popular shows like Cheers, Mary Tyler Moore, Gun Smoke, Bonanza, House, CSI MIami, etc.Losing any of those shows would never cause me to jump ship but if they were dropped during their hey day by a provider it would have ticked me off.
  20. May 26, 2012 #320 of 1922

    chris83 Legend

    Aug 16, 2006
    The original Star Trek WAS cancelled in February of 1969
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