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Dish drops AMC (+WeTV, IFC & Sundance)

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by lparsons21, May 4, 2012.

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  1. Jun 4, 2012 #441 of 1922
    damondlt

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    Pink Slimed!:lol:
     
  2. Jun 4, 2012 #442 of 1922
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    So, are they going to point out that almost all Dish programming is available elsewhere if you want to combine OTA, Streaming sites, DVD's, etc.?
    Seems like kind of a stupid response.
    "Sure, you already pay $XXX.XX per month for "America's Everything Pak (in my case), but since we are dropping channels from that package, just pay an extra $100 bucks or so to get Mad Men, The Killing, Breaking Bad, and The Walking Dead".
    I doubt That's cheaper than the increase would have been.
     
  3. Jun 4, 2012 #443 of 1922
    SayWhat?

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    ^^ You still don't get that Rainbow is the bad guy here, do you?
     
  4. Jun 4, 2012 #444 of 1922
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    I'm one of the people who didn't find out about this AMC dispute until last night, when I noticed the channel was gone from 130. Checked dbstalk this morning, and was shocked to find out what's going on. I called Dish immediately. I've been with Dish for probably 15 years, pay a huge monthly rate for almost every channel they've got, but I swear, if they drop AMC, I will drop Dish, guaranteed. AMC has the best scripted dramas on television right now, and no way am I being consigned to watching them on a PC screen.

    When I called Dish, at first the agent said it was only a channel reassignment to 9610, but when I pressed him on what I'd learned here about the dispute, then he started talking about it. I then pressed him to make sure that if they are logging calls, to make sure I was recorded as someone who WILL cancel service if they drop AMC. He spent a minute or so logging my comments, saying they also had a way to log topics that were "trending" with Dish.

    Anyone who cares about this issue should absolutely call, and press them to log their concerns.

    As to the dispute itself, I couldn't care less if they have to raise the rates to keep AMC. I'm already paying for all the networks like ESPN, which I couldn't care less about. Let the ESPN watchers finally subsidize people like me, for a change.
     
  5. Jun 4, 2012 #445 of 1922
    SayWhat?

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    SeeYaLaterBye.
     
  6. Jun 4, 2012 #446 of 1922
    steveT

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    Thanks for the concern. I guess you only care about issues that affect only you.
     
  7. Jun 4, 2012 #447 of 1922
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    So what are the odds that this dispute will end up like others in the past, resolved at the last hour, or maybe after a few days of AMC going dark? So many of these disputes have arisen and been resolved in the past, that I would've thought it would happen again this time, but given that it appears to be wrapped up with this lawsuit, the situation seems to be worse.
     
  8. Jun 4, 2012 #448 of 1922
    SayWhat?

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    I'm concerned about saving money, not filling some network fatcat's pockets.
     
  9. Jun 4, 2012 #449 of 1922
    Shades228

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    Then you should just cancel your service because that's what you would do rather than what you are doing.
     
  10. Jun 4, 2012 #450 of 1922
    sigma1914

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    Exactly and get off the grid because you're constantly filling tons of fatcat's pockets. You're hypocritical SayWhat?
     
  11. Jun 4, 2012 #451 of 1922
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    I’m now getting “Indie” on 393, which I didn’t think was in my package (AT200).
     
  12. Jun 4, 2012 #452 of 1922
    Stewart Vernon

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    People just like to rant about stuff. Imagine if all those people ranting on Dish about AMC were actually to get together and try to help poverty or hunger or health issues or something important... but naahh... they will freak out over AMC.

    Meanwhile... IF AMC would agree to no price increase or a moderate one, none of this would be happening. Those same people mad at Dish are the same people who will be mad at Dish when their price goes up to subscribe to Dish... so I really wish people would pay attention to these things and not freak out. It really doesn't help get the deal done any faster and for the short term it gives AMC some false hope to stick to their guns.
     
  13. Jun 4, 2012 #453 of 1922
    damondlt

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    If you want them to pay attention to whats going on the Dish Needs to inform 14 million of its customers.

    And give them the details,
    right now they hear is AMC is charging too much, well thats Dishes excuse every other day. So what! Customers are getting tired of hearing that too.
    Your getting paid to provide a service based on whats in the line up when a customer signs up.


    As far as the customers freaking out, well they are paying for a service they they may not provide them with while locked into a commmiment.

    They aren't going to throw a party.:lol:
     
  14. Jun 4, 2012 #454 of 1922
    steveT

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    I wouldn't be mad in the slightest if they raised my bill by $1, $5, or $10 to keep AMC. That's totally worth it to me to watch "Breaking Bad", "Walking Dead", "The Killing", "Hell on Wheels", and whatever new scripted dramas are in development. Breaking Bad is probably one of the best 5 series EVER on TV. Maybe I'm in the minority, but at least some of us out here don't mind paying for quality. Especially since I have no choice in NOT paying for so many channels I couldn't care less about.

    And yeah, we should all be saving our ammo for the important issues. But let's face it, life is tough, most people are doing their best to survive out here; so what we're talking about here is the little bit of relaxation/entertainment time people have to take their minds off the rest of it...
     
  15. Jun 4, 2012 #455 of 1922
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    The problem is ESPN watchers are getting their channel on every provider's lowest tier. Don't think this about retrans fees.

    IMHO this is a very personal dispute between Charles Ergen and Charles Dolan and if Dolan doesn't blink on Rainbow Media's side AMC is gone. The Dolan family rarely blinks, so while the employees will be working to get Dish to a table anywhere....

    Ergen sincerely believes the Dolan's cheated him out of millions and at the time it looked to me he was right. So nobody at Dish is working to get anyone at Rainbow to a table....

    And the difference is that Dish can lose the Rainbow channels and will be able to keep the percentage price increase for all tiers above the AT120 down next February. AMC is either going to have to say to advertisers that not being available to Dish subscribers doesn't matter thereby confirming Dish's assertion or they're facing an income loss beyond the Dish retrans fees.
     
  16. Jun 4, 2012 #456 of 1922
    SayWhat?

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    Which is why many have suggested making AMC a premium channel. Let those that want it pay for it.

    I've never watched any of the shows you mentioned. Not even once. I can breathe just fine since my life doesn't depend on any of them.
     
  17. Jun 4, 2012 #457 of 1922
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    That's some pretty large conjecture. Sure for this channel let's say they paid the rate increase of $0.50 per sub for easy math and they currently pay $0.25. That's a 200% increase however with other channels that are losing market share they could start paying less or nothing but give them some advertising space. This is done a lot of the times. This reduces the cost of that channel significantly. So at the end of the year the total retrans cost goes up say 10% and they increase their packages by 4%. The other money is made up in other areas.


    Now in your scenario you're saying that the rate increase won't be as impacting due to this but really all it's going to do is allow them to increase packages 4% while only having a retrans cost go up say 9.5% overall.
     
  18. Jun 4, 2012 #458 of 1922
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    Where did 393 go? 131 is not there...if Dish forgot
     
  19. Jun 4, 2012 #459 of 1922
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    Remembering here that Dish will not have had an increase in its tier rates for two years, I'm saying Charlie Ergen is viewing the loss of the Rainbow Media package of channels as an opportunity to get even with the Dolan's and keep the cost of the tiers above AT120 a little bit lower than otherwise might have been the case.

    Dish competes on price more than any other provider. If The Great Recession caused no pain to a viewer, that probably doesn't matter. But for many price does.
     
  20. Jun 4, 2012 #460 of 1922
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    HERE's an excellent piece from Bloomberg today. Much of it has been reported before, but there are a few new details:

    Really? Since their ratings were much lower in the past, why haven't they been in the 9000's all along? Why aren't networks with even lower ratings than AMC also only in the 9000's. I call BS.

    At least we now know for sure when they'll be pulled:
    They're really negotiating hard to keep these horrible channels on the air, aren't they?

    How can anyone still believe this isn't 100% about the lawsuit or that any number of customer complaints will change the outcome?
     
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