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Dish drops AMC (+WeTV, IFC & Sundance)

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by lparsons21, May 4, 2012.

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  1. Oct 1, 2012 #1761 of 1922

    kick4fun Godfather

    Aug 9, 2006
    I've never seen the Talking Dead.. Is that pretty good? It's the follow up show, I know this much.. That would be a cool stream..
  2. Oct 1, 2012 #1762 of 1922

    Inkosaurus Icon

    Jul 29, 2011
    Its pretty entertaining I really enjoyed it last season.

    Its really great (though rare) when someone calls in and asks questions about the comic characters and if they'll show up on the show (usually happens when Kirkman was in the episode).
  3. Oct 1, 2012 #1763 of 1922

    MCHuf Legend

    Oct 9, 2011
    I never got this argument about AMC cheapening their product. They don't have many, if any, full episodes for free on their site. It isn't offered on Hulu/Hulu+ or Amazon. Netflix only has the previous seasons available and if you want any of the current season and don't have a pay-tv subscription, you have to pay $2-$3 per episode. If anything, it goes for a premium. :confused:
  4. Oct 1, 2012 #1764 of 1922
    Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    Two things in play..

    Giving away an episode now for free just means no reason for Dish to worry about it for another week... free isn't what AMC offered to Dish. IF AMC is willing to give it away free, why not let Dish keep the AMC feed while they negotiate?

    On the larger online versions... IF you only wanted a higher tier for AMC, and only wanted AMC for a few shows (they only have a few shows of original programming)... you'd probably save money by dropping that higher tier from Dish and just buying those episodes online for a few shows.

    Charlie himself said that he could probably reimburse customers for buying episodes in this way for the number of viewers that actually wanted those particular episodes... and save money based on what AMC wanted to increase the rates... hence, Dish issuing credits and giving out Rokus to people.

    That's the problem... AMC trying to get money from too many different places and not realizing how it all interacts and crashes together when it comes to negotiations.
  5. Oct 2, 2012 #1765 of 1922

    RVRambler Legend

    Dec 5, 2004
    "complained' about no AMC and they offered me a 'discount' of $2.5 mo for Encore, said no thanks. He then xfered me to 'loyalty' person who voiced her 'I did not ever enjoy AMC (Mad M, etc) but some of my friends.......... yada, yada, blah, blah....".

    Ended up getting a $10 discount on bill for 1 yr. Much preferred to nearly anything they could offer short of AMC, last yr on 2 yr contract.

    Did ask why no HD ESPNU, she thought is was in HD, on HD transponder, so re-checked, & of course she was wrong.

    College basketball soon, ESPNU has a fair # of games which I watch, too bad, now I have to 'guess' who that player is and find it 'hard' to argue with the ref call!! :) Blind as what we blame on Ref's with just SD!! Fairly sucky but.........

    It PAYS to complain!!
  6. Oct 2, 2012 #1766 of 1922

    mdavej Hall Of Fame

    Jan 30, 2007
    I did even better. I cancelled Dish and got cable. Now I not only have AMC HD, but also WE HD and IFC HD. Plus I'm saving $50/month for the next 2 years. It may pay a little to complain, but it pays a lot more to drop Dish altogether.

    I realize cable won't work in an RV, but it's a good option for us non-ramblers.
  7. Oct 2, 2012 #1767 of 1922

    ehilbert1 Godfather

    Jan 22, 2007

    That would be nice but Dish didn't even want to negotiate. They just dropped the channel. You can't leave something up if there is no negotiation.

    I will still never get the argument that having previous seasons on Netflix is a a bad thing. It's not the new episodes. I used Netflix to get into Dexter when it was still on Netflix. Now I subscribe so I can watch all the new episodes. That helps Showtime and D. Right? More money coming in.

    I know people that did the same for Walking Dead. They got the higher package so they can watch the show. Should be win win!
  8. Oct 2, 2012 #1768 of 1922

    DoyleS Icon

    Oct 21, 2002
    El Dorado...
    Timing is also key here. Although a lot of the AMC shows like WD, BB, MM and HOW are in their new season, but so is everything else, and their are some good new shows.
    Last Resort is looking very promising.
    I am a Blue Bloods fan.
    Revenge has me hooked.
    Vegas is good with Michael Chiklis.
    Arrow and Revolution sound promising.
    So for me, I am in catchup mode on Mad Men at Disc 2 of Season 2 through Blockbuster. And Dish set me up with Hell on Wheels.
    Couple that with the SF 49ers having a good season and the Giants in the playoffs. My DVR will keep me busy for the foreseeable future.
    I won't have to be concerned about whether Dish and AMC resolve their differences for at least another year.
  9. Oct 2, 2012 #1769 of 1922
    Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    Faulty premise there, though... Dish didn't drop the channels. AMC pulled the feed when the contract was up.

    Dish said AMC wanted too much, AMC said Dish refused to negotiate. We only have AMC's "word" that Dish refused to negotiate... but we know AMC pulled the feed at the end of the month.
  10. Oct 2, 2012 #1770 of 1922

    tampa8 Godfather/Supporter

    Mar 30, 2002
    Normally I would agree with that.(questioning the lack of negotiating) I do however think Dish in this case decided they were not going to carry AMC unless AMC agreed to things Dish knew they would not agree to. As an example only wanting AMC, not WE or Sundance etc...) And the remarks made by AMC that AMC wanted much more money from any carrier (though not all at once) gave Dish an opening. Take away the lawsuit and I feel AMC might still be carried.
  11. Oct 3, 2012 #1771 of 1922

    paja Godfather

    Oct 22, 2006
    My wife and I are with your list plus Hawaii 5-O and GRIMM
  12. Oct 4, 2012 #1772 of 1922

    dunkonu23 Legend

    Sep 10, 2006
    I signed up for the streaming feed. Funky stuff afoot here... All I know is that after my contract expires and if TWD is still on, I'll drop Dish.

    That all said, I do like Talking Dead, too. Though we used to record TWD and TD then watch them Monday after we watched Dexter. Now... we will record Dexter and stream a feed of TWD.

    This whole finger pointing thing is a shame when subscribers, for whatever reason, are caught in the middle of two childish entities who can't get along.

  13. Oct 4, 2012 #1773 of 1922

    joyandjerry AllStar

    Jul 3, 2012
    Agree completely! The Dish/Voom trial is supposed to last until the end of the month, so then we'll know if AMC/IFC will ever be back. About 13% of AMC's subscribers are from Dish, although obviously not all subscribers watch AMC et al. Surely AMC doesn't want to lose that many potential viewers.

    Our computer is at work, so we cannot stream these shows, unfortunately. We will also be switching if it is not back eventually.
  14. Oct 5, 2012 #1774 of 1922

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

    Jan 23, 2008
    Talk about whining:

  15. Oct 5, 2012 #1775 of 1922

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    Even as a DIRECTV® fanboi, I think AMC is being a complete d*** in this matter.
  16. Oct 5, 2012 #1776 of 1922

    joyandjerry AllStar

    Jul 3, 2012
    Yeah, AMC is bashing Dish, instead of attemptimg to resolve the situation.
  17. Oct 5, 2012 #1777 of 1922

    dunkonu23 Legend

    Sep 10, 2006
    Thing is, it really does not matter who is right and who is wrong in this dispute because it is the consumer who is wronged. Both Dish and AMC should simply grow up, face the music and stop playing media games.

  18. Oct 5, 2012 #1778 of 1922
    Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    If AMC put half the effort into negotiations that they put into their negative marketing... the channels might be back on Dish already.

    edit: I wonder... AMC wanted a rate increase... but how much is their anti-Dish campaign costing them in marketing? They could save that money and put it towards their programming, couldn't they?
  19. Oct 5, 2012 #1779 of 1922

    ATARI Hall Of Fame

    May 10, 2007
    I agree.
  20. Oct 9, 2012 #1780 of 1922

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    I have been hearing commercial on the radio for weeks now..... Walking Dead is back, some random sounds and quotes, award winning blah blah..... BUT NOT ON DISH, If you are a Dish subscriber visit switchfromdish.com to switch and watch AMC!

    I don't think Charlie is budging, AMC marketing machine! :D
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