Dish far apart on contract with CBS as deadline nears

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  1. Nov 5, 2014 #41 of 183
    James Long

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    One can still skip commercials ... one just has to do it the old fashioned way, pressing the skip fwd button for each 30 seconds one wants to skip, then the skip back if one goes too far.
     
  2. Nov 5, 2014 #42 of 183
    Stewart Vernon

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    Exactly... it just stops the AutoHop feature for 3 days... customers can record and skip past commercials the manual way OR just ignore the commercials and go to the bathroom or something.
     
  3. Nov 11, 2014 #43 of 183
    TBoneit

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    I live in the NYC market, I would be a little impacted in that I would have to either watch live in HD or record it in Glorious DVD resolution.

    I have Basic Cable too and can watch it on all the TV sets or record it on my Magnavox DVD recorder with Hard Disk Drive. So what I would do is set up a Timer for each show and title it in the timer and record it to the Hard Disk Drive. Then when I watch it in WS format where I can use the Forward or reverse skip in the DVD recorder to skip through the commercials. FWIW the video looks pretty good as it is recorded from the HD channel feed and captured in 720 by 480 resolution. I'd rather take the minimal hit in quality vs watch the commercials.

    The Only time that strategy fails is if both the satellite company and the Cable company have a dispute going for the same channel at the same time.

    I already missed some of the CBS shows as they were not recorded in their entirety due to sports on Sunday this year, same as last year. Oh well, the way I look at it, it they wanted me to watch the show then they would start it at the right time.

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  4. Nov 13, 2014 #44 of 183
    satcrazy

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    Great...
    Yup, they repeatedly butchered the good wife with the back up from sports.

    I do not understand why a station would intentionally sabotage it's own programming this way. Why not reruns after sports that don't matter, and schedule the good programming on another day?
    I think this killed a lot of interest in decent programming. People are tired of recording half a show, or constantly checking back to catch a particular program. What is CBS thinking?
     
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    Paul Secic

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    I don't watch any network at all due to the fact that I go to bed at 7PM because I have Cerebral Palsy. Network TV hasn't has a hit since the 90's.Good luck.
     
  7. Nov 13, 2014 #47 of 183
    Lyle_JP

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    Can I assume that if my CW channel is CBS-owned, I will lose that, too?
     
  8. Nov 13, 2014 #48 of 183
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    Looks like Moonves is making Ergen an offer he can't refuse...

    From last Monday

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    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/leslie-moonves-discusses-dish-carriage-747777

    "As I said to Charlie Ergen … 'Your people won't be very happy with the Denver Broncos not on the air [on] Sunday,' " Moonves said (Dish is based in Colorado), adding, "There would be a lot of heat for not having CBS programs on."
    Last week, Moonves had said about the Dish talks: "The end of our current deal is approaching soon, and we're determined to get paid fair value for our programming. As you know by now, we know how to get this done, and rest assured, we will."

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    A couple of years ago, Moonves was targeting 2 dollars a month for CBS by 2017. Based on recent statements, he may want 3 dollars a month by 2019.
     
  9. Nov 13, 2014 #49 of 183
    TBoneit

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    Good Point. Since the shows can't get good ratings why not do reruns after sports. I can only guess they are tired of those shows and hope this kills the ratings. I know I am not setting a 4 hour timer just to catch a 1 hour show that actually runs about 43 minutes.

    Cheers
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  10. Nov 13, 2014 #50 of 183
    Orion9

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    Wow. So if CBS is an "average" station, then AT120 would have $360 in retransmission fees on top of their other costs. If CBS is twice as good as an average station, then it would only be $180 in fees. :)
     
  11. Nov 13, 2014 #51 of 183
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    But, it is probably cheaper than what Turner wants for CNN. So far, that has not been revealed.

    Considering CBS will be offering streaming for $5 a month, one has to think they will want to come closer to that price fro cable and satellite. Even though, it is free to air, at least for now.
     
  12. Nov 14, 2014 #52 of 183
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    It is being offered for $5.99 per month in select areas. I tried it on their one week free offer. It works, it's OK, but it is still pay TV with ads.
     
  13. Nov 14, 2014 #53 of 183
    Orion9

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    Are you saying it has all the same ads for $5.99 that the come in the OTA version???
     
  14. Nov 14, 2014 #54 of 183
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    Great...
    sounds more aggressive than friendly.

    not everybody is worried about the broncos.

    sunday night was the only cbs programming I followed, {60 min. and the goodwife,] and football screwed that up, so I lost interest.

    Not really worth the extra $, but then, I have an antenna in my attic, so I can take it or leave it. Too bad everyone doesn't have the antenna option.
    What would the locals do then?
     
  15. Nov 14, 2014 #55 of 183
    Wilf

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    I didn't try to make a detail comparison, but it appears that it does. I live on the Eastern Shore of MD, which puts me in the Baltimore DMA, so what I see is a streaming version of Channel 13. Ironically, it is easier for me to get to Philadelphia, than Baltimore.
     
  16. Nov 14, 2014 #56 of 183
    James Long

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    Info channels for CBS O&Os?

    Changes seen 11/14/14 at 7:41pm ET (v04)

    Channels Now Available
    6218 DISH (3 Local) DISH Info Channel New York, NY market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6215 DISH (6 Local) DISH Info Channel Los Angeles, CA market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6210 DISH (3 Local) DISH Info Channel Chicago, IL market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6209 DISH (3 Local) DISH Info Channel Boston, MA market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6211 DISH (12 Local) DISH Info Channel Dallas, TX market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6216 DISH (5 Local) DISH Info Channel Miami, FL market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6224 DISH (6 Local) DISH Info Channel San Fransisco, CA market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6212 DISH (5 Local) DISH Info Channel Denver, CO market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6222 DISH (3 Local) DISH Info Channel Pittsburgh, PA market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6217 DISH (3 Local) DISH Info Channel Minneapolis/St Paul, MN market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6213 DISH (63 Local) DISH Info Channel Detroit, MI market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6225 DISH (12 Local) DISH Info Channel Seattle, WA market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6219 DISH (5 Local) DISH Info Channel Philadelphia, PA market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6226 DISH (45 Local) DISH Info Channel Tampa, FL market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6223 DISH (14 Local) DISH Info Channel Sacramento, CA market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6207 DISH (70 Local) DISH Info Channel Atlanta, GA market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6208 DISH (14 Local) DISH Info Channel Baltimore, MD market Hidden - AVAILABLE
    6214 DISH (20 Local) DISH Info Channel Johnstown/Altoona, PA market Hidden - AVAILABLE

    (All channels above fed from 110° TP 10 and 72.7° TP 29.)
     
  17. Nov 14, 2014 #57 of 183
    zippyfrog

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    Yes... I am in chicago and it is a Blue Slate channel. Info for channels says "CBS Corp Threatens Channel removal. WBBM is threatening to block access to CBS 2. For more info, visit DishIsOnYourSide.com or call Marty Wilke at 312-899-2222"
     
  18. Nov 14, 2014 #58 of 183
    nmetro

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    Same here for KCNC, in Denver. More corporate greed. f this happens, then 8 channels I am paying for, that I will not get via satellite. Turner being the other seven.

    The FCC should force compensation when subscribers are caught in the middle of these disputes. Subscribers should be paid 50% each from the satellite/cable provider and the programmer provider. The fine should be a per diem credit fro each channel blocked. Maybe these disputes would be less frequent, if they had to pay penalties to subscribers.

    We know this will never happen. But, what will happen si more and more subscribers dumping cable and satellite; for OTA and streaming alternatives. Corporate greed is helping them dig their own graves.
     
  19. Nov 15, 2014 #59 of 183
    Mark Holtz

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    From Deadline Hollywood:

    CBS Warns That Its Stations Might Go Dark On Dish Network
    FULL ARTICLE HERE

    The site is http://keepcbs.com/ , but if you add cbssacramento or cbsnewyork, it will add the local station name. THe affected stations are:

    KCAL-TV/Los Angeles
    KCNC-TV/Denver
    KDKA-TV/Pittsburgh
    KOVR-TV/Sacramento
    KPIX-TV/San Francisco
    KTVT-TV/Dallas
    KYW-TV/Philadelphia
    WBBM-TV/Chicago
    WBZ-TV/Boston
    WCBS-TV/New York
    WCCO/Minneapolis
    WFOR-TV/Miami
    WJZ-TV/Baltimore
    WWJ-TV/Detroit
     
  20. Nov 15, 2014 #60 of 183
    Willh

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    will KTXA in Dallas also get pulled as well as KTVT due to being sister stations in the DFW area owned by CBS.
     
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