Dish far apart on contract with CBS as deadline nears

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  1. Nov 15, 2014 #61 of 183
    djlong

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    The Turner networks are noticing anywhere from a 15-20% drop in their ratings since they went dark on Dish. Since CBS is supposed to live on advertising revenue, they'd lose rating AND ad revenue dollars if Charlie sticks to his guns.

    At some point, the content providers have to realize it's not a bottomless well. Besides, HDTV antennas don't have the same kinds of problems that old 'rabbit ears' had. There's no ghosting from signal multi-pathing, etc. I should pick up an indoor antenna and hook it up to my hopper just to see what I can get.
     
  2. Nov 15, 2014 #62 of 183
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    I was surprised that KTVT was owned by CBS, when I lived in the DFW area it was an independent station owned by interests in Fort Worth (Fort Worth Star Telegram?). Anyway, KTXA is most likely not affected. By the way, if you live anywhere within 50 miles of Cedar Hill, you can get every Dallas/Fort Worth TV station, which is transmitted from there; OTA. 2, 4, 5, 8, 11, 13, 21, 27, 33, 39, 52 came in with no problem in Lake Highlands. 23 was iffy, even though it came from Garland. I left, in the early 1990s, so I cannot speak about newer stations. By the way, I received OTA with powered rabbit ears. So, a powered, amplified flat antenna should work should a dispute ensue.

     
  3. Nov 15, 2014 #63 of 183
    James Long

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    I seem to remember CBS being off of DISH for a couple of weeks a few years ago. It seems to be the only way to get things done with some content providers.
     
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    djlong

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    I've seen those charts. They seem to be optimistic for my address - but the last time I tried one was MANY years ago. Besides, I can always buy an antenna, try it and return it if it doesn't pick up much.
     
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    Hi
    I missed it if it was posted, but what date mightthis happen, I need to set up timers on the DVD Recorder in advance.

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  7. Nov 17, 2014 #67 of 183
    nmetro

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    Plan on some time next month. I have not seen a date either. But the CBS CEOs comment that Denver subscriber will be upset when they can see the Broncos, indicates it would happen during football season.


     
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    Thank You nmetro
    That answers my Question. I am guessing that it means midnight Thursday. That means I have nothing at risk until Monday with NCIS LA and then NCIS & NCIS New orleans. I am not watching as much CBS as I used too.

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  10. Nov 17, 2014 #70 of 183
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    Maybe a dumb question - can the hopper record ota?
     
  11. Nov 18, 2014 #71 of 183
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    Here we go: CBS introduced a web site today warning Dish Network customers that when its carriage deal expires this month the No. 2 satellite company “may drop” the network-owned stations in 14 cities including Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Boston, Detroit. “While CBS has been able to reach agreement with all other major carriers of our stations, we are finding it difficult to reach agreement with Dish, which is why we felt it necessary to alert Dish subscribers in our stations’ markets that they may soon not have access to view our programming,” the company says.

    From lead article at this link... http://deadline.com/tag/dish-network/
     
  12. Nov 18, 2014 #72 of 183
    James Long

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    Yes. You would need the OTA module (USB) and decent OTA reception.

    During a dispute DISH does not provide EPG for the OTA channel so you would end up with recordings that would not have the correct show names. You would need to set recordings based on time, not name.
     
  13. Nov 18, 2014 #73 of 183
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    The NFL could fix this by enforcing "Delay of Game" penalties after touchdowns, field goals, turnovers, punt returns, and kickoff returns the way they do after most plays. The only exception would be in the event of an injury, a timeout, or a challenge. It is ridiculous to see players stand around for several minutes before kicking off after a score and then several more minutes until the opposing teams first snap. Enforcement of these rules will shave at least twenty minutes off a game.
     
  14. Nov 18, 2014 #74 of 183
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    Follow the money, Advertising us more important than the programs to the distribution chain.
    The NFL and the other leagues could also not have time for the advertisements figured in. Look at NASCAR, do they stop the race for commercials, No they keep racing. And if something happens during the commercial time it gets replayed. Other Sports could do the same thing.

    I just consider CBS Sundays as where they put a show that they want to kill but due to ratings they need to lower those first.

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  15. Nov 18, 2014 #75 of 183
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    Actually... those aren't the problem... it's all the commercial breaks after scores and end of quarters that take up that time. Meanwhile, the enforcement and explanation of penalties adds a LOT of time to most games. The quickest games tend to be the most cleanly played ones... watch a game with relatively few penalties called vs one with a LOT of game/clock stoppage to enforce penalties. Your proposal of enforcing/adding more penalties would actually lengthen the game quite a bit.
     
  16. Nov 18, 2014 #76 of 183
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    The Chicago CBS has been showing the anti-DISH ads all night
     
  17. Nov 19, 2014 #77 of 183
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    CBS also owns KSTW 11 Seattle (CW). $2 a sub for CBS is way too much for an OTA station with plenty of ads. I totally agree with Dish. These rates that the programmers are demanding is nuts. You know, in many of these cases, if Dish or Direct do not carry the channels, the programmer ratings drop. I guess that really does not matter to them. The issue between satellite/cable companies and the programmers are much like our own Congress. None of the above gets along. We, the consumer gets the end results. Even though I do not care all that much about the Turner channels, the war gets old. We really need something like a public utility commissioner as a go-between.
     
  18. Nov 19, 2014 #78 of 183
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    The CBS site also mentions in the FAQ, that "You may also lose the ability to watch programming on Showtime and CBS Sports Network." CBS did this last year in a similar dispute with Time Warner. If they do this with Dish, all subscribers nationally will lose access to Showtime and CBSSN.
     
  19. Nov 19, 2014 #79 of 183
    nmetro

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    So, what's next, Viacom?

    So, imagine if Viacom, Turner (with TBS and TNT), CBS, Showtime, CBSSN all end up being pulled at once from DISH?

    http://deadline.com/2014/11/turner-warn-tnt-tbs-blackout-dish-network-1201288316/ (TNT and TBS could go on 5 December).

     
  20. Nov 19, 2014 #80 of 183
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    Great...
    What channels are associated with VIAcom?

    What IF they were all pulled?

    Life as you know it would not come to an end, LOL.

    Just give us better SUBS than MGM, please. That channel is lame.

    CBS, Wbep and NBC in my city is off air and showing the Dish retort to the problem.

    Right now I have other channels to watch, and if becomes an issue [ ?] I have a OTA Antenna.

    There isn't all that much offered on National TV that is critical [ to me] Seems they have cornered the market on REALITY TV, not my cup of tea at all.
    Not worth the $.
     
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