Dish far apart on contract with CBS as deadline nears

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  1. Dec 4, 2014 #161 of 183

    Orion9 Legend

    Jan 31, 2011
    Yeah but then you said "take that! to the CEO of CBS right after you said you would give him ~10 times what you used to pay him. "take that!" is a very odd expression for doing that. I would think "Thank you, sir, may I have another" (Animal House) is more appropriate. :)
  2. Dec 4, 2014 #162 of 183

    bgullicksen Legend

    Oct 1, 2006
    7:08 and CBS is still on.....has anyone heard if things have been settled or does it take a while to turn it all off?
  3. Dec 4, 2014 #163 of 183

    Willh Legend

    Jan 1, 2009
    the channels have until 9 30 PM CT to be removed if there is no agreement.
  4. Dec 4, 2014 #164 of 183

    coolman302003 2014 NBA CHAMPIONS!

    Jun 2, 2008
    Just minutes ago this press release went out:

    Dish Network Subscribers in 60 Markets May Lose Network and Local Community Programming Tomorrow Night
    60 Stations Potentially Affected as DISH Has Yet to Reach Distribution Agreement with Nexstar Broadcasting

    Link to Press Release
  5. Dec 4, 2014 #165 of 183

    bgullicksen Legend

    Oct 1, 2006
    Wow, thanks! It just seems to keep getting worse and worse for us Dish subscribers. First we lost Comcast Sports Network so I can't watch the Celtics anymore, then CNN, Cartoon Network, etc. for a bit. CBS and Showtime and now this potentially. I missed a bunch of Walking Dead when they fought with AMC a while back. My price doesn't get lowered when I get less service than what I am contracted to pay for. I appreciate Dish fighting hard to keep our prices as low as they possibly can be, but I also should be compensated when they don't provide me what I am paying for.

    This will be it for me. If I lose any of these stations I will have to go to Comcast. I hate Comcast and I love the Hopper w/Sling but I can't keep paying for programming that I lose access to. This is getting way to common. It's no wonder people cut the cord and just grab content from the Torrents. Sorry to rant, but it feels good to vent!
  6. Dec 4, 2014 #166 of 183

    coffee Cool Member

    Dec 16, 2008
  7. Dec 4, 2014 #167 of 183

    SomeRandomIdiot Godfather

    Jan 6, 2009
    Well that adds a few more CBS Stations to the possible blackout list on Dish

    DMA Rank  Affiliation  Station  DMA Name
    17	CBS	KREG-TV	Denver, CO
    54	CBS	KGPE	Fresno-Visalia, CA
    68	CBS	WFRV-TV	Green Bay-Appleton, WI
    78	CBS	WROC-TV	Rochester, NY
    85	CBS	WCIA	Champaign-Springfield-Decatur, IL
    100	CBS	WHBF-TV	Davenport, IA-Rock Island-Moline, IL
    104	CBS	WTAJ-TV	Johnstown-Altoona, PA
    117	CBS	WMBD-TV	Peoria-Bloomington, IL
    144	CBS	KLBK-TV	Lubbock, TX
    164	CBS	KTAB-TV	Abilene-Sweetwater, TX
    180	CBS	WJMN-TV	Marquette, MI
    185	CBS	KREX-TV	Grand Junction-Montrose, CO
    185	CBS	KREY-TV	Grand Junction-Montrose, CO
    198	CBS	KLST	San Angelo, TX
    11	CW	KASW	Phoenix, AZ
    34	CW	KUCW	Salt Lake City, UT
    45	CW	WLYH-TV	Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York, PA
    48	CW	WCWJ	Jacksonville, FL
    50	CW	WLMT	Memphis, TN
    67	CW	WWCW	Roanoke-Lynchburg, VA
    72	CW	KCWI-TV	Des Moines-Ames, IA
    93	CW	WBRL-CD	Baton Rouge, LA
    100	CW	KGCW	Davenport, IA-Rock Island-Moline, IL
  8. Dec 4, 2014 #168 of 183

    nmetro Godfather

    Jul 11, 2006
    KREG, KREY and KREV are the same station. Translators all around Grand Junction (KREG is the primary station). KCNC is the Denver CBS affiliate.

  9. Dec 4, 2014 #169 of 183

    SomeRandomIdiot Godfather

    Jan 6, 2009
    The list has the TV DMA, not the city of license.
  10. Dec 4, 2014 #170 of 183

    KyL416 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 10, 2005
    Tobyhanna, PA
    These are two different disputes. The Nexstar thing is not CBS/CW specific, it affects all of their stations. (And likely the stations of their shell company Mission too)
  11. Dec 4, 2014 #171 of 183

    TBoneit Hall Of Fame

    Jul 27, 2006
    FWIW DirecTV has these problems and My Cable company has had problems too. There is no escaping it unless You use a OTA antenna for locals.

    Good Luck
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  12. Dec 4, 2014 #172 of 183

    SomeRandomIdiot Godfather

    Jan 6, 2009
    No one ever said they were part of the same dispute.....just the possibility of more CBS stations going dark.

    No reason to mention ABC/NBC/FOX/MyNetworkTV/Telemundo as this is a CBS related thread.
  13. Dec 4, 2014 #173 of 183

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Seaside Oregon
    KSTW-11-Seattle is also CBS O&O
  14. Dec 4, 2014 #174 of 183
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Gold Club DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    And if a deal is signed with CBS the Nextar stations could still go dark.

    Let's keep this thread on the dispute with CBS ...
  15. Dec 4, 2014 #175 of 183
    Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    How did you manage that? When Dish and AMC were in dispute it was mostly over the summer... the dispute went over the 1st week of the new season of Walking Dead that year, but was resolved the next week... and when AMC airs new episodes they always are a repeat of the previous week just beforehand... so when Dish came back on with AMC that next weekend, I got to see the 1 episode of Walking Dead I missed and the 2nd episode of the season day and time aired!

    If you missed a "bunch" then that wasn't Dish or AMC's fault.

    Technically speaking, you're getting exactly what you pay for. Dish clearly states that you are paying for a package of channels and that package might change. They might lose channels, channels might change tiers, and channels get added sometimes too! Do you immediately ask if you can pay Dish more when they add a new channel in the middle of the year?

    The only place for a legitimate gripe of paying for something you don't get would be if Showtime goes dark. In that one case, you should absolutely stop paying for the Showtime tier because they dropped the whole package essentially... and I bet you have zero problems getting that taken care of on the bill. That's the one scenario where they have to stop charging you, because the whole tier/package went dark.

    Already addressed above... you pay for a package, the package has no guaranteed content. You signed that agreement either virtually or physically when you signed up for Dish service. Maybe you didn't read the agreement, but it's there. They also usually do not immediately raise prices when they add channels... would you like them to do that? I know they would like to do that... but it's easier to raise rates once or twice a year than to do it each time they add a channel or renegotiate a contract.

    Why would you go to Comcast? Comcast is at least 50% responsible for the problem you stated with losing the Comcast RSN.... but you'd reward them by going to them? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
  16. Dec 4, 2014 #176 of 183

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    I always wonder how important television is for people.... I mean, in many years of Time Warner Cable and DirecTV, I have had my share of disputes, and lost my share of channels.... sometimes for months. But it was never important enough for me to switch providers. In the case of CBS, it can be received for free with an aerial antenna (provided of course you can get the reception) and the only issue would be recording. But if you have a computer, you can buy a $50 usb tv tuner and record television that way.

    I finally ended up being fed up with price increases year after year after year, due to the higher prices operators like Dish are paying to content and channel providers, and especially to sports content providers who are attached to major league teams. They just want more and more and more money.... And Dish isn't getting any of it by the way, they just pass on the buck.

    I, for one, was getting tired of ever increasing prices. I decided it isn't all that bad to see the series that are on TV now..... NEXT year when they appear on Netflix and Amazon Prime. I don't need to see it first run, its not like we discuss whats on TV anymore the next day at work.

    In any case, I will always side with the cable and satellite companies on these disputes, if you want to continue to pay for television, at least let there be a fight for the lowest price.
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  17. Dec 4, 2014 #177 of 183

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    What makes you think Comcast is immune to these disputes?
  18. Dec 5, 2014 #178 of 183

    SomeRandomIdiot Godfather

    Jan 6, 2009
    Pretty hard to put the blame on Comcast 50%.

    Comcast is not going to giveaway the product and lose money.

    And if you comeback is Comcast should not have paid so much for the rights, then the team would not have had the money to sign better players - and the team would not be as popular losing more - so less viewers would care....and the circle keeps going round and round....

    If you want to say 80/20, I'll give you that.

    However, DirecTV decided years ago to go after the higher credit score customer - those who would pay their bills on time and could afford to give a higher APRU, as noted in an earlier postin this thread.

    Over time, that has left Dish with what it ended up with.

    Bottom line. If Dish's customers cannot afford all the bells and whistles (and channels), there are other choices, Comcast being one of them.

    Dish has it's model and DirecTV has it's model (And Comcast has it's model).

    Some car dealers sell Mercedes. Some sell Subaru. Some sell used car for those who cannot get financing anywhere else.

    That does not mean that EVERY customer fits that model.

    But businesses know their model and adjust themselves to those models.
  19. Dec 5, 2014 #179 of 183

    Athlon646464 Yada Yada Yada DBSTalk Gold Club

    Feb 23, 2007
    Uxbridge, MA
    Update: CBS, Dish Network Blackout Deadline Passes

    ( - The broadcast network had threatened a 7 p.m. ET Thursday deadline for reaching a deal in the carriage dispute, but currently remains on the air.

    As the deadline hit for the threatened blackout, CBS remained on the air Thursday evening.

    “CBS remains on the air with Dish while negotiations progress into the evening,” the network said in a statement....

    Full Story Here

  20. Dec 5, 2014 #180 of 183

    patmurphey Godfather

    Dec 21, 2006
    If you don't already have OTA, what better way is there to deal with December to get first run VOD the next day or at our convenience? OTA is only live with full ads unless you PAY for an alternative recording system. January is only an afterthought in the unlikely event there are any first run shows that are important to my family. I should have put the "take that" after the first paragraph, because I will likely cancel December 31.

    Free December combined with going to reruns was "stupid" timing for this dispute for non sports fans.
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