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Dish Forcing upgrade ???

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by strykerakamack, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. strykerakamack

    strykerakamack Cool Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    I have 2 722s and a 522
    using sats 110 119 & 61.5
    They want me to upgrade to all 722s
    and change to sat 129 or 72 it seems .
    they say its for the HD channels.
    Now the TV I have on the 522 isnt an HD so it has no HD inputs and the 722
    they want to upgrade to doesnt have s video outputs .
    So whats the reason ,Are they tring to do away with my Free DVR and make me pay more fees?
    Been a loyal customer for years but this forced upgrade doesnt seem
    consumer friendly ,hey you want to update dishes fine but why force reciever upgrade?
  2. garys

    garys Hall Of Fame

    Nov 4, 2005
    All signals are going to mpeg4, the 522 will soon be out of service.
  3. tampa8

    tampa8 Godfather/Supporter

    Mar 30, 2002
    The first problem is you are not getting all the HD channels, I'm actually surprised you haven't wanted to. Now more than ever, you have to get both 61.5 and 72, or 110/119/129 for HD. Depending on your locals you may need 77, in your case I'm guessing not.

    Second, the 522 at some point will not work with the new system. As it is now, it will not work on 61.5, 72, or 77. So if you really want to keep it, and be able to see all the HD channels on your HD receivers, you will need to add 129 if you can see it along with 119/110.
  4. jadebox

    jadebox Godfather

    Dec 13, 2004
    Just to let you know ... I went through a similar upgrade recently and it was a good experience.

    After getting the letter, I called and the CSR was friendly and helpful. In a few minutes the service call was scheduled for just a few days later.

    The service person arrived on time and he was also courteous and professional. He replaced two of our DVRs and repointed the antennas. He made sure all the remotes were working with the new DVRs. He replaced a cable between the wall and our other DVR because it wasn't the quality they normally used.

    He even replaced a light bulb in our closet while he was up on a ladder checking on the switch in our attic.

    After the upgrade, we do have a few more channels in HD and the new DVRs are much nicer than the ones we had.

    -- Roger
  5. Michael P

    Michael P Hall Of Fame

    Oct 27, 2004
    If you need an S-video jack request a 622. I have one connected to an SD TV via S-Video.

    BTW didn't they consolidate the DVR fee to one fee per household (as opposed to per DVR)? That is what D* does.
  6. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    The DVR fee is now one per account ... but the additional receiver fee for a DVR is $3 higher than a similar non DVR (a 222 as a 2nd receiver is $14, a 622 as a 2nd receiver is $17) so in essence the DVR fee lives on.

    The 922 has a $20 fee as a 2nd receiver ... and the per account DVR fee is higher. We've been told that is because it has a larger hard drive. Another reference to the per receiver DVR fee living on - masked in another fee.
  7. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    Or get a 612. Monthly is $10.

    No PIP, no support for a 2nd tv.
  8. Michael P

    Michael P Hall Of Fame

    Oct 27, 2004
    Ouch, those additional receiver fees are high. Do they charge the same fee weather you own the receiver or lease it?
  9. scooper

    scooper Hall Of Fame

    Apr 22, 2002
    Youngsville NC
  10. BattleZone

    BattleZone Hall Of Fame

    Nov 13, 2007
    Yes. There has never been a difference in monthly fee based on ownership vs. lease.
  11. Dave

    Dave Icon

    Jan 28, 2003
    If you are not paying a DVR fee for the 522 and you upgrade, then yes it would be an extra $ 17 per month for the second DVR. Yes they are trying to make you pay more.
  12. Blowgun

    Blowgun DHMO User

    May 23, 2008
    Western Arc
    If they force you to upgrade, in turn, they should be forced to grandfather you in at no additional cost.
  13. habsfan66

    habsfan66 AllStar

    Mar 25, 2010
    I guess I'm confused (not unusual unfortunately). I have a 722 DVR and a 411 solo and the only receiver charges on my bill are $6.00 for dvr service and $7.00 for the second (411) receiver. So if I upgraded my second receiver from the 411 to whatever the dvr equivalent would be, would the second receiver fee be $10.00 ($3 more) and my dvr service fee would stay at $6.00?
  14. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    That is correct.

    Yes. Or you could pay a one time $40 fee and turn your 411 in to a DVR by connecting a USB drive.
  15. neilo

    neilo AllStar

    Aug 7, 2006
    I only have a 522 and haven't heard any requests to get rid of my receiver. My problem is that I have too many things on my DVR to upgrade. I suppose if I got a new one and only recorded to that while watching old stuff on the old one I could eventually empty it.
  16. scooper

    scooper Hall Of Fame

    Apr 22, 2002
    Youngsville NC
    Not anytime soon, gary - I'll let you know when I get the call to replace my DP311 SD receiver.

    There are other reasons that Dish maybe looking to get rid of 522's and 625's - but it is not for a pending change to MPEG4.
  17. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    Everybody who has an active 522 pays a DVR fee. It has been that way since Premier excluded the DVR fee.

    The monthly fee for a 522 is $17.
    The monthly fee for a ViP722 is $17.

    How is the OP going to be paying more?
  18. MaryB@DishNetwork

    MaryB@DishNetwork DISH Representative DISH Representative

    Jan 18, 2011
    Dish Network does have a MPEG4 only requirement for all Eastern Arc Installations (77, 72.7, 61.5)
    The VIP922 is a $17.00 receiver fee. The account level DVR Fee is $10.00 instead of $6.00 like all other DVR.
    OP is paying $17.00 a month for 522, so upgrading to 722 will not increase monthly fees!
  19. habsfan66

    habsfan66 AllStar

    Mar 25, 2010
    Do you always require a new 2 year lock in when someone just wants to upgrade a receiver, say from a regular HD solo to solo DVR?
  20. scooper

    scooper Hall Of Fame

    Apr 22, 2002
    Youngsville NC
    If you're leasing instead of buying ? Yes.

    If you buy one retail, and want it added, and Dish doesn't have to send a tech to install an MPEG4 dish - then you can get by without the 2 year commitment - I think.

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