Dish FSN dispute - Channels Down

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  1. James Long

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    Where do you get the idea that CBS has "tens of millions" of viewers via DIRECTV? That is where you are in error. We are talking about CBS O&O stations, not the full DIRECTV subscriber base but only subscribers in certain markets. And those markets are cities where most of the population has alternatives such as OTA readily available.

    CBS is not dependent on DIRECTV for all of its viewership. I think you know that.
     
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  2. dtv757

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    One small thing to keep in mind att (DirecTV and u verse ) is the largest tv provider in the USA . So combined millions are affected.


    I think most o&o stations are in huge metro areas (nyc, philly, la etc )

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  3. Andrew Sullivan

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    I don't know how many customers are affected but I would guess it's a substantial number considering the populations of the cities involved. Miami, SanFrancisco, Los Angeles, Sacramento, Denver, Chicago, Philly, Detroit, Dallas, Seattle, Boston, Tampa, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore. Maybe not tens of millions but certainly a certainly a large chunk of viewers.
     
  4. James Long

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    What people seem to be forgetting is that the CBS outage does not cover every DIRECTV or UVERSE customer. The CBS broadcast network did not lose "25 million" viewers when they left DIRECTV.
     
  5. Jim5506

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    I do not believe Sinclair bought all of the FSN channels. I thought that our Fox Sports Southwest was not in the package...perhaps I'm wrong.
     
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  7. zippyfrog

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    As of this morning, this site says that Dish has reached a short term extension as they work towards a carriage agreement.

    I also saw FX, FXX, Nat Geo, etc. are still on as of this morning, although I don't see anything on Dish's site that says an extension was reached.
     
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  8. BreadDawg

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    yep just just checked my Dish Anywhere app and my Fox Sports RSN is on there. We'll see how long it stays.
     
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  10. James Long

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    I believe Disney had 90 days to divest. The Sinclair deal was announced May 3th. I'd say it is a matter of weeks before Sinclair takes over.
     
  11. tampa8

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    I believe we are in a transition period where a network like CBS is not going to give in to Directv, DISH. As more people are willing to stream, CBS is set and ready for that to be a prominent way to watch them. Not everyone has the ability to stream and do depend on Satellite for TV. But I don't think the numbers are enough for CBS to worry, it's becoming DISH and Directv who need them more to keep customers. The four Networks are still the most watched TV in prime time.
    Remember, their model is if you watch CBS all access you are watching your own local CBS, ads and all.
     
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  12. compnurd

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    Agreed. CBS holds the cards here with football coming.
     
  13. Tiny

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    Sinclair is acquiring the following RSNs: for 10.6 Billion dollars beating out Liberty media for Fox Sports Arizona, Fox Sports Detroit, Fox Sports Florida, Fox Sports Sun, Fox Sports North, Fox Sports Wisconsin, Fox Sports Ohio, SportsTime Ohio, Fox Sports South, Fox Sports Carolina, Fox Sports Tennessee, Fox Sports Southeast, Fox Sports Southwest, Fox Sports Oklahoma, Fox Sports New Orleans, Fox Sports Midwest, Fox Sports Kansas City, Fox Sports Indiana, Fox Sports San Diego, Fox Sports West, and Prime Ticket.
     
  14. mwdxer

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    Add to that many that get their CBS station OTA. Here, Meredith stations are gone off Dish, but i get one of them with subs OTA.
     
  15. scooper

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    Same here - both Meredith stations (one is the local CBS, which we watch alot) off Dish for the moment, but I can watch them OTA.
     
  16. NYDutch

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    Interestingly, that's not always the case. We moved our RV from southern VT to upstate NY yesterday, and using our AT&T cell hotspot Internet service, CBS All-Access gives us the Boston station, and our Verizon service gives us the NYC station. Only if we stream with our cottage Spectrum service do we get the correct Albany, NY station. As we travel, it's always a guessing game to see which stations we'll get where. :)
     
  17. James Long

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    The goal is to deliver the correct station for the location. The execution can be lacking.
     
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    Oh, there's no question what the goal is... The oddity is as you say, in the execution. Given the variables of Internet routing, it's a wonder that geofencing is only as inaccurate as it is.
     
  19. James Long

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    Drat!

    61 changes seen 7/26/19 at 11:52am ET (v25)

    Channels Renamed
    411 PRIME Prime Sports renamed INFO Prime Sports (110° TP 9 SD Hidden)
    411 PRIME Prime Sports renamed INFO Prime Sports (72.7° TP 25 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    415 FOXAZ FOX Arizona renamed INFO FOX Arizona (119° TP 16 SD Hidden)
    415 FOXAZ FOX Arizona renamed INFO FOX Arizona (72.7° TP 9 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    416 FOXSW FOX Southwest renamed INFO FOX Southwest (119° TP 10 SD Hidden)
    416 FOXSW FOX Southwest renamed INFO FOX Southwest (72.7° TP 7 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    417 FOXW FOX West renamed INFO FOX West (119° TP 10 SD Hidden)
    417 FOXW FOX West renamed INFO FOX West (72.7° TP 5 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    418 FOXMW FOX Midwest renamed INFO FOX Midwest (119° TP 10 SD Hidden)
    418 FOXMW FOX Midwest renamed INFO FOX Midwest (72.7° TP 7 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    420 FOXS FOX South renamed INFO FOX South (119° TP 16 SD Hidden)
    420 FOXS FOX South renamed INFO FOX South (72.7° TP 7 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    422 SUN Sun Sports renamed INFO Sun Sports (119° TP 10 SD Hidden)
    422 SUN Sun Sports renamed INFO Sun Sports (72.7° TP 7 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    423 FOXFL FOX Florida renamed INFO FOX Florida (119° TP 10 SD Hidden)
    423 FOXFL FOX Florida renamed INFO FOX Florida (72.7° TP 5 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    425 FOXOH FOX Ohio renamed INFO FOX Ohio (119° TP 10 SD Hidden)
    425 FOXOH FOX Ohio renamed INFO FOX Ohio (72.7° TP 5 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    427 FOXCN FOX Cincinnati renamed INFO FOX Cincinnati (119° TP 10 SD Hidden)
    427 FOXCN FOX Cincinnati renamed INFO FOX Cincinnati (72.7° TP 9 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    430 FOXD FOX Detroit renamed INFO FOX Detroit (119° TP 17 SD Hidden)
    430 FOXD FOX Detroit renamed INFO FOX Detroit (72.7° TP 15 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    430 FOXD FOX Detroit renamed INFO FOX Detroit (77° TP 11 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    431 STO Sports Time Ohio renamed INFO Sports Time Ohio (119° TP 8 SD Hidden)
    431 STO Sports Time Ohio renamed INFO Sports Time Ohio (72.7° TP 9 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    436 FOXN FOX North renamed INFO FOX North (119° TP 10 SD Hidden)
    436 FOXN FOX North renamed INFO FOX North (72.7° TP 9 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    437 FOXSE FOX Southeast renamed INFO FOX Southeast (110° TP 9 SD Hidden)
    437 FOXSE FOX Southeast renamed INFO FOX Southeast (72.7° TP 25 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    439 FOXSD FOX San Diego renamed INFO FOX San Diego (119° TP 10 SD Hidden)
    439 FOXSD FOX San Diego renamed INFO FOX San Diego (72.7° TP 5 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
    5411 PRIME Prime Sports renamed INFO Info Channel (411 HD) (110° TP 14 HD Hidden)
    5411 PRIME Prime Sports renamed INFO Info Channel (411 HD) (72.7° TP 10 HD Hidden)
    5415 FOXAZ FOX Arizona renamed INFO Info Channel (415 HD) (129° TP 26 HD Hidden)
    5415 FOXAZ FOX Arizona renamed INFO Info Channel (415 HD) (72.7° TP 4 HD Hidden)
    5416 FOXSW FOX Southwest renamed INFO Info Channel (416 HD) (110° TP 14 HD Hidden)
    5416 FOXSW FOX Southwest renamed INFO Info Channel (416 HD) (72.7° TP 10 HD Hidden)
    5417 FOXW FOX West renamed INFO Info Channel (417 HD) (110° TP 14 HD Hidden)
    5417 FOXW FOX West renamed INFO Info Channel (417 HD) (72.7° TP 10 HD Hidden)
    5418 FOXMW FOX Midwest renamed INFO Info Channel (418 HD) (129° TP 26 HD Hidden)
    5418 FOXMW FOX Midwest renamed INFO Info Channel (418 HD) (72.7° TP 4 HD Hidden)
    5420 FOXS FOX South renamed INFO Info Channel (420 HD) (129° TP 26 HD Hidden)
    5420 FOXS FOX South renamed INFO Info Channel (420 HD) (72.7° TP 4 HD Hidden)
    5422 SUN Sun Sports renamed INFO Info Channel (422 HD) (110° TP 14 HD Hidden)
    5422 SUN Sun Sports renamed INFO Info Channel (422 HD) (72.7° TP 10 HD Hidden)
    5423 FOXFL FOX Florida renamed INFO Info Channel (423 HD) (129° TP 26 HD Hidden)
    5423 FOXFL FOX Florida renamed INFO Info Channel (423 HD) (72.7° TP 4 HD Hidden)
    5425 FOXOH FOX Ohio renamed INFO Info Channel (425 HD) (110° TP 14 HD Hidden)
    5425 FOXOH FOX Ohio renamed INFO Info Channel (425 HD) (72.7° TP 10 HD Hidden)
    5427 FOXCN FOX Cincinnati renamed INFO Info Channel (427 HD) (129° TP 26 HD Hidden)
    5427 FOXCN FOX Cincinnati renamed INFO Info Channel (427 HD) (72.7° TP 4 HD Hidden)
    5430 FOXD FOX Detroit renamed INFO Info Channel (430 HD) (110° TP 14 HD Hidden)
    5430 FOXD FOX Detroit renamed INFO Info Channel (430 HD) (72.7° TP 10 HD Hidden)
    5431 STO Sports Time Ohio renamed INFO Info Channel (431 HD) (110° TP 14 HD Hidden)
    5431 STO Sports Time Ohio renamed INFO Info Channel (431 HD) (72.7° TP 10 HD Hidden)
    5436 FOXN FOX North renamed INFO Info Channel (436 HD) (129° TP 26 HD Hidden)
    5436 FOXN FOX North renamed INFO Info Channel (436 HD) (72.7° TP 4 HD Hidden)
    5437 FOXSE FOX Southeast renamed INFO Info Channel (437 HD) (110° TP 14 HD Hidden)
    5437 FOXSE FOX Southeast renamed INFO Info Channel (437 HD) (72.7° TP 10 HD Hidden)
    5439 FOXSD FOX San Diego renamed INFO Info Channel (439 HD) (110° TP 14 HD Hidden)
    5439 FOXSD FOX San Diego renamed INFO Info Channel (439 HD) (72.7° TP 10 HD Hidden)

    10293 Channels
     
  20. James Long

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    DISH Promise | MyDISH | DISH Customer Support

    We are currently experiencing a dispute with FOX Regional Sports Networks, currently owned by The Walt Disney Company, and your programming is impacted by these negotiations. We understand missing your favorite team play is very frustrating.

    The fact is, only FOX Regional Sports Networks can choose to remove their content from DISH customers. FOX Regional Sports Networks are asking for an unreasonable price increase, by asking subscribers to pay for sports channels that they may not even receive.

    The fact is, sports are the most expensive programming out there, and players’ salaries have increased in recent years. That money has to come from somewhere, making sports the most expensive part of customer’s bills. As networks, like FOX Regional Sports Networks, make risky investments on expensive sports rights, they are looking to make back that money with increasing prices, reflecting right on your bill.

    DISH made every attempt to extend the contract so our customers would not be impacted but FOX Regional Sports Networks refused this offer. We appreciate your patience while we continue to work with FOX Regional Sports Networks to bring back your channels.

    When will my access to my FOX Regional Sports Network return?
    These channels will return as soon as our deal is accepted or extended by FOX Regional Sports Networks. Our ask is to continue to negotiate with FOX Regional Sports Network in private while you still have access to your channel. We continue to ask FOX Regional Sports Networks for the ability to do so, and to restore their channel.
     

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