Dish FSN (Sinclair owned) dispute - Channels Down

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  1. Jul 26, 2019 #41 of 120
    Andrew Sullivan

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    The whole problem with all of these disputes, DirecTV or Dish or Cox or Comcast. How do we, the subscribers, know who to believe? It's all your fault. No it's all your fault. What? CBS, you say you need a increase of how much? Why? OK that's reasonable. OK that's not reasonable. Somebody needs to decide what is reasonable. Arbitrator please. It's not rocket science. Is the cost increase justified or isn't it? When you choose arbitration you agree to abide by the arbitrators decision. The end customer, us, will decide if we want to continue as subscribers. Simple.
     
  2. Jul 26, 2019 #42 of 120
    Tiny

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    I’ll be downgrading to flex pack till this is solved i usually wait till baseball season is over to downgrade but my disposable income for entertainment is small being on a fixed income and all pay TV services are getting outrageous pricey and if I go to streaming only being a internet only customer they hit me with the data cap .
     
  3. Jul 26, 2019 #43 of 120
    mwdxer

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    It sounds like an "HBO" agreement, asking Dish to pay for channels the customer cannot receive. I just don't see that as legal, but I am not a lawyer.
     
  4. Jul 26, 2019 #44 of 120
    dtv757

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    I saw this on an FSN facebook page [​IMG]

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  5. Jul 26, 2019 #45 of 120
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    DISH & Sling Have Dropped Fox Regional Sports Networks Nationwide!
    "As of 9:00am Pacific Time, Friday, July 26, DISH and Sling no longer carry any of the 21 FOX Sports Regional Networks. The FOX RSNs offered to extend DISH and Sling under the current terms of our existing agreement, but DISH and Sling rejected our offer. We know fans are looking forward to the broadcasts during the stretch run of baseball season, and we hope DISH and Sling act to return this programming to their customers."
     
  6. Jul 26, 2019 #46 of 120
    epokopac

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    Lawrencevill...
    From Dish:

    DISH made every attempt to extend the contract so our customers would not be impacted but FOX Regional Sports Networks refused this offer.

    From Fox:

    The FOX RSNs offered to extend DISH and Sling under the current terms of our existing agreement, but DISH and Sling rejected our offer.

    So ... who's lying?

    MLB EI has the games except for my Braves games.
    MLB EI, ESPN, ESPN2, FS1, FS2, MLB Network, Local Fox will have to do for now.
     
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  7. Jul 27, 2019 #47 of 120
    Willh

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    and there's another option, but it's pretty much watching a stream that is illegal, but it's only illegal to the streamer, not the watcher (for now, until the government make laws to where watching a live illegal stream is the same as downloading music or movies illegally, which means jail time or lawsuit.) but i wouldn't recommend it.
     
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  8. Jul 27, 2019 #48 of 120
    epokopac

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    Lawrencevill...
    I have plenty of other teams I follow via MLB EI. I can get the Braves recap on MLB Network Quick Pitch. Forgot to add TBS to the channel list for baseball on Sunday afternoons.
     
  9. Jul 27, 2019 #49 of 120
    dtv757

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    But if braves are his home team , I would bet he would want to watch them.

    Local teams are blackout on mlb.tv and the away feed is also blacked out .

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  10. Jul 30, 2019 #50 of 120
    sparky27

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    Well I hope Dish gets this squared away before NCAA football and basketball season...one of the reasons I returned to paytv was for the sports!
     
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  11. Jul 30, 2019 #51 of 120
    Michael P

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    Well FOX Sports is running radio spots here in Cleveland telling Dish subscribers to switch providers. I call that extortion on the part of FOX/Disney. So I believe Dish and don't believe FOX/Disney.
     
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  12. Jul 30, 2019 #52 of 120
    dtv757

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    That happens with every dispute , saying to switch providers .


    My local Nextstar stations are saying to switch providers etc .

    And last december when Nextstar was in dispute with the local cable co they ran a scroll to switch to D*

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  13. Jul 30, 2019 #53 of 120
    mwdxer

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    Then the next dispute, change providers again, and then again...This gets crazy. I guess until the government steps in, we will have to roll with the punches. If you have streaming, you can always get the channels that way to get you by, until the contracts are settled. There are no contracts with steaming services, so you are add or drop them at will. But at least it is a way for some.
     
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  14. Jul 31, 2019 #54 of 120
    sparky27

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    Some interesting quotes on this topic in the article... I found it to be the most informative article I've read this issue so far.

    Dish Network may cut ties with regional sports networks

    "At times Ergen batted the RSN issue around like a cat bopping a mouse with its paw a few dozen times before chewing it in half. “Because I’m emotionally involved, I want to keep them. But my nose tells me, that’s not the right thing to do,” Ergen said. “Once you take something down, a month from now, we won’t have anybody who wants a regional sports network. And to put it back up when you’ve lost the customers that did want it, makes no sense.”

    "That Sinclair is paying fire-sale prices for the RSNs—the initial valuation of the networks was north of $20 billion—speaks volumes about the state of this once-booming sector. Many analysts now believe that their inflated carriage fees have made regional sports networks all but unsustainable in a time of escalating subscriber losses."
     
  15. Jul 31, 2019 #55 of 120
    dtv757

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    Wow I wonder what else will change as dish transforms to a wireless provider

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  16. Aug 4, 2019 #56 of 120
    James Long

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  17. Aug 6, 2019 #57 of 120
    tsmacro

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    I just read an article from the Indy Star (Indianapolis newspaper) that indicated that FSN did indeed offer Dish a short-term extension while the two sides were negotiating. Turns out though the only short-term extension FSN was willing to agree to, was one where it expired on opening day of the 2020 baseball season. That obviously gives FSN leverage and Dish didn't feel it could negotiate a fair deal under those circumstances.
     
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    fmcomputer

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    Youngstown....
    I sure wish i could put my thoughts into words - Oh well JUST FIX IT...
     
  20. Aug 14, 2019 #60 of 120
    Michael P

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    Since pro football is not on the affected RSN's this statement makes no sense. We're missing the current BASEBALL season.
     

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