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Dish HD Absolute ends February 1, 2011

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by RAD, Jan 5, 2011.

  1. Jan 8, 2011 #81 of 267

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    You have choices. Dish, DIRECTV, TV via the net, or...no TV. A monopoly would be just Dish.
  2. Jan 8, 2011 #82 of 267

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    Sorry, your post didn't make it clear that you were talking only about Dish based on the bolded sentence.
  3. Jan 8, 2011 #83 of 267
    Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    Those aren't valid examples at all.

    Thought it has been a while, I most certainly have had a cellphone plan dropped on me in the past... and insurance changes all the time. A couple of times a year I get info about some new coverage being required or some old coverage being dropped on policies.
  4. Jan 8, 2011 #84 of 267
    P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    I don't remember such statement in TOS ...

    Perhaps you know (I'm doubt, but ) REASONS to believe why AHD must disappear 2 years ago? Or in other time.

    The package still available up today - check the bills, as not avail to new sub - that's again: by what REASON ?!

    Shouldn't some car's model/cell phones in low range disappear too by same reason ?

  5. Jan 8, 2011 #85 of 267

    ubankit AllStar

    Jan 7, 2005
    Like it or not, that's the business model for Pay tv providers, be it satellite, Fios, Uverse, cable, etc. I've never considered them my friends, it's simply a business arrangement and try not to take it personally. It must be working or they wouldn't continue to offer it. The provider doesn't care about making the consumer happy, they are more interested in keeping their shareholders and stock analysts happy.
    That's business today and I don't see it changing anytime soon. You could do the "satellite shuffle" and switch between Dish & Direct every two years in order to get the new customer deals. (This may be getting harder to do as providers catch on:D)

    Here's what I consider a monopoly: prior to Direct & Dish most viewers didn't have any choice in pay tv but cable (unless you were in a rural area, then your choice was a bud, big ugly dish!), I can only imagine what pay tv would cost today if dbs wasn't an option.

    You make a valid point about your local Tru Value store, they appreciate your business and show it. I try and shop "locally" when possible for that reason, it keeps jobs and wages in your local area.
  6. Jan 8, 2011 #86 of 267

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

    Jan 23, 2008
    January 2009? You're joking right? All of those were on by January 2009. Heck, I had my second 42" HDTV by then. It was less than half the price of my first one I bought in ... drumroll please, April 2007!

    With respect to your situation, you're not in a monopoly or duopoly...you have plenty of choices, including going without.
  7. Jan 9, 2011 #87 of 267
    Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    I'm not sure at all what you are trying to say here.. Sorry, seriously, it's hard to follow what you wrote.

    Guessing at it, though...

    The Terms of Service for Dish clearly state that they have the right to change channel and package offerings at any time and without notice. This is standard practice for lots of businesses.

    They can't charge you for a package they decide to no longer offer... but so too are they not required to let you keep it if they decide not to offer it.

    So... who knows why they decided to stop offering the HD Absolute package 2 years ago. Not profitable? Programming providers didn't like it? Random whim? Who knows... but it doesn't matter, because they have the right to do it.

    I liked the McDLT at McDonalds... but they stopped offering it years ago... and I learned to live without it.
  8. Jan 9, 2011 #88 of 267

    davidpo AllStar

    Apr 6, 2006
    The prices would have been cheaper much cheaper. When Dish and Directv raise their rates to the point the common man can no longer afford it watch the prices plummet.
  9. Jan 9, 2011 #89 of 267

    levibluewa Icon

    Aug 13, 2005
    WA, OR, CA
    states..."you'll receive a credit on your account for the next 12 months" but doesn't state how much....anyone have any idea??????

    Also,...beginning February 1, 2011...(If we don't hear from you your account will transition to) America's Top 200 programming, HD free for life and our HD Platinum package free for the next 12 months. ...to speak with one of our specially trained customer service representatives about updating your programming, please call 1-800-894-9131.
  10. Jan 9, 2011 #90 of 267
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    Well. if you insist that apples = oranges and Absolute is equal to the package you need to subscribe to to continue to receive all the channels you want then DISH has been giving you what has grown to be a 95% discount the past two years. Hence the "free ride". I'm sure the rest of DISH's customers would have loved to get the ~50% off of their bills.

    Can you can find where DISH promised you those channels at that price forever? We can find where DISH promised that no offering is forever.
  11. Jan 9, 2011 #91 of 267

    Calvin386 Godfather

    May 23, 2007
    Can we move this discussion in a different direction please. This back and forth arguing about definitions, grammar and ideology is wearing me out.

    How about what our best options are, prices of different packages and if we should do it now or wait til Feb. 1st?
  12. Jan 9, 2011 #92 of 267

    GB1 AllStar

    Dec 7, 2006
    second that!
  13. Jan 9, 2011 #93 of 267

    PolkSDA New Member

    Feb 3, 2008
    I'm the one who started the thread "over there" and initially posted a scan of the letter. Some of this post is verbatim from what I posted over there.

    After beating my head against the wall and getting nowhere with Dish's outsourced phone personnel, I decided to shop around and ultimately ended up going with DirecTV.

    One of the problems with the way Dish is migrating AbsoluteHD subscribers, is that while the letter implies that you get HD Platinum free for year *AND* there is a service credit, what I was personally told on the phone by multiple reps was that it's the same thing: The credit is for the free HD Platinum. No stacking. Which makes it infinitely less appealing.

    Dish would rather lose me as a customer entirely for 2 years and wait for me to come back as a "new customer" after that point, eating future equipment and reinstall costs, rather than give me a package cost that is relatively close in cost to what I've been paying. Seems very shortsighted.

    For other people potentially in the same situation:

    Thanks to the person who suggested looking for AAA discounts on DirecTV. There is currently a 20-month $10 credit available to AAA members. Note: this does NOT stack with the current "bonus" 12-month $5 credit being offered at on DirecTV's website.

    I am getting an HD DVR, a 2nd HD receiver, whole-home DVR service, and Choice Extra (pretty much the same equipment config I have now with Dish).

    Total equipment cost: $21.70 (shipping fee + tax). This is free on the DirecTV website, but the AAA offer doesn't include free shipping.

    Programming costs after various credits, since they have different durations:

    Months 1-12: $39.99/month
    Months 13-20: $44.99/month
    Months 21-24: $54.99/month

    Even at its highest in months 21-24, it's still cheaper than what Dish was willing to do for me, since the only credits they would offer me lasted only 12 months.

    The equipment, package, and options I'm getting are exactly as shown below, but with the above pricing when all is said and done.

    The one feature that I'm losing, since DirecTV doesn't offer an equivalent (to my knowledge) that might be a dealbreaker for many folksis the whole outboard $39 onetime-charge-per-accouont USB drive DVR setup. I'd only used mine sparingly, and I have other uses for the drives, so it's not as critical for me as it may be for others

  14. Jan 9, 2011 #94 of 267

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    PolkSDA, you might want to consider getting the second HD box as another HD DVR. IIRC you can get that for $99 now, if you decided to get it later it's $199, you might have to wait two years before getting it for $99. That also give you two more tuners for recordings to help reduce any conflicts. Welcome to DIRECTV, hope you enjoy it.
  15. Jan 9, 2011 #95 of 267

    Justgrooven Cool Member

    Jan 23, 2010
    If Dish America Bronze ($29.95) is offered with free Platinum for 12 months it would be the same price I am paying now, not withstanding the increase in February if there is one. I looked at the schedule and see the Science channel on 193 but it is not designated as HD, does anyone have this package that can speak to HD content? I will loose a few channels and gain a few. I just finished reinstalling my equipment and have it just the way I want it and I like the Platinum channels so the thought of moving to another provider does not appeal to me.
  16. Jan 9, 2011 #96 of 267

    Galaxie6411 Icon

    Aug 26, 2007
    You want to know the Bronze or the Platinum channels? I have that channel in HD and have Everything pack with Platinum.

    Also my High School Econ teacher wouldn't let me get by without saying what some of you are actually complaining about Dish as being is an Oligopoly.
  17. Jan 9, 2011 #97 of 267
    P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    What it turning into Duopoly in case of satellite programs delivery market.
  18. Jan 9, 2011 #98 of 267

    Justgrooven Cool Member

    Jan 23, 2010
    Bronze please.
  19. Jan 9, 2011 #99 of 267

    biz AllStar

    Jul 30, 2004
    When I got on chat yesterday to find out when I could quit w/o penalty (wasn't sure), I found out its in Sept. :mad::mad: I upgraded to a 722 and that tied me for 2 years.

    Then the rep said to save money, I could get rid of the HD DVR and save 17.00/mo.

    idiots, I said so and quit the chat. About 10 min later I got a coupon for a free PPV.

    Reminder: When I called and talked on phone, they told me that the HD for Life free required paperless billing, autopay AND a 2 year commitment.

    Just repeating what they said, of course the letter doesn't mention that.

    Since I'm stuck til Sept, no wonder I didn't get some good offers to stay.
  20. Jan 9, 2011 #100 of 267

    Jim5506 Hall Of Fame

    Jun 7, 2004
    $5 price drop was because locals charge was dropped - across the board for all Dish packages, it had nothing to do with Disney channels.

    I would not object to a $10 -$15 price increase in HD Absolute if we could keep it.

    The only reason for abolishing it would be if the programming providers prohibit the sale of HD only packages, but then Dish still has 3 other HD ONLY packages.

    OK, RAISE THE PRICE BUT IF YOU FORCE ME OFF ABSOLUTE - I'M GONE!! I'll pay more to Direct or Cable before I'll send another dime to Dish.

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