DISH Hopper coming at CES ?

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  1. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    Counting 1 GB per one hour of HD in H.264 ]MPEG-4[ - user space is 250 GB from total 2000 GB [2 TB] drive ?! OMG ! 1/8 or 12.5% ....
  2. phrelin

    phrelin Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Jan 18, 2007
    Three years ago when I had access to Echostar Engineering personnel, I asked them to look at simply adding a "start late" option like the "start early" and "end late" options that allow you to add minutes to a program.

    I explained that the guides they have don't recognize scheduled overruns of one or two minutes which leaves one without the last minute of a show because one can't set the start time of the next show to be a minute or two late. And, I explained, that for many shows the first minute is "previously on" plus credits, so I already skip that.

    Should have been simple, at least in my mind. Don't see that option on my 722 or 612.

    Basically Dish won't enter into the 21st Century on the multitude of scheduled overruns of less than 5 minutes. So I can't imagine anyone acknowledging NFL game unscheduled overruns like last night's playoff game on CBS of 30 minutes.

    If they don't give me a block of three hours for me to watch using fastfforward and skip, the feature is fabulous for the me that watched 1990 broadcast network programming but probably crap for the me that watches 2012 21st Century broadcast network programming.

    But that's just my opinion and what do I know. I'm just a customer who above all values viewing whole programs over any technological advance that prevents that, even though I do consider myself a techie.

    EDIT: I think I said previously that I'm a skeptic, but just in case, I'm a skeptic.
  3. Grampa67

    Grampa67 Legend

    Mar 14, 2005
    No caller id?
  4. n0qcu

    n0qcu Legend/Supporter DBSTalk Gold Club

    Mar 23, 2002
    Yes, it should
  5. Blowgun

    Blowgun DHMO User

    May 23, 2008
    Western Arc
    Do you know how DISH determine 53 percent? It sounds like DISH is collecting subscriber information from their receivers or it's a limited sample based on website traffic.

    As I mentioned in the other thread, the user can select 2 additional channels of their own choosing. So why couldn't the two additional channels be CW and/or PBS?
  6. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    I guess these two channels will take next two sat tuners for that.
  7. jsk

    jsk Icon

    Dec 27, 2006
    Fallston, MD
    Several questions:

    Will you be able to use PTAT to record all 4 networks at other times, such as when they all have their own news?

    Will they use the same technology to automatically recognize when you are recording two to four shows on the same transponder and give you "bonus tuners?"

    Will you be able to start a PTAT program from the beginning before it finishes recording it?
  8. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    Good question what required good knowledge of detail functioning of the DVR, but so far at CES they demoing only boxes, not working devices and shows slides. Perhaps someone on CES floor could find an engineer who is working with the device and could answer your question.
  9. BobaBird

    BobaBird EKB Editor

    Mar 30, 2002
    I think it's from what the STB reports to the mother ship.
    Of course they can, taking up your 2 other tuners even though it's quite likely they're in the same MUX as the big 4.
    No, only prime-time hours. If there's a sporting event in there, and you have the default "end 1 hr late," the PTAT event will get extended. It wasn't clear to me if that also happens when the sporting event starts before prime time.
    That would be a pretty slick enhancement, but I don't think so. I was told today that part of why we don't have CW included is that there is some special flagging added to the satellite stream, so I wouldn't expect to find that on the channels that you or I choose.
    Yes, you can start watching via the DVR menu as soon as it starts recording but, in answer to a related question I'm not going to search for, none of the boxes can watch PTAT live, just "almost live."
  10. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

    Apr 17, 2003
    I can see the flags, and have been reporting their addition to channels for the past few months (in Uplink Activity). So far only "abc", "nbc", "cbs" and "fox" tags are added. There should be no technical reason not to be able to add a "cw" tag, but it would require the channel to be on the same transponder as the big four for each market and depending on if they are recording the whole transponder or just the streams needed for the big four it would take up more space on the hard drive.
  11. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    Finally, these new descriptor [0xA0...] coming to light. I think, the desc will be used for parsing [whole] mux, ie for separation big four.
  12. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
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