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dish install away from edge of roof still allowed?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by mikeinaustin, Oct 1, 2012.

  1. Oct 1, 2012 #1 of 13

    mikeinaustin AllStar

    May 20, 2004
    I currently have dish network and am considering switching to dtv. my dish is installed near the center of the roof the wires lead from there into the attic. if i go with dtv, i would like their dish to be located very near my existing dish.

    searching around some say installers are no longer allowed to leave their ladder for roof installs. if so, they could not install the dtv dish where i would like it to be located.

    i further understand that this is due to a osha regulation that came out a few years ago. apparently, it applies if a company has 50 or more employees. i am not sure if dtv installers are dtv employees are contracted out positions.

    so what is the real story here? i have a 2 story house and the current dish is located "2nd story roof". i know it is difficult to visualize, but if you were to fall from this 2nd story location, you would actually fall just 3 feet onto the 1st story roof which is level at that location. so it is a nice hidden location with perfect line of site.
  2. Oct 1, 2012 #2 of 13

    revolg AllStar

    Apr 7, 2012
    Yes alot of in house will avid by the laws. But alit of contractors will get it in regardless. Also directv has a fall protection plan so if a customer wants the dish in a certain spot just ask for the guys sup to come out and he will be willing to work with you in getting it done. Or should I say (should)
  3. Oct 3, 2012 #3 of 13

    krazyrs Cool Member

    Sep 21, 2011
    the fall protection only gets you 3-6 feet away from the ladder (depending on the reach)
    really makes no sense to even call my supe out for it since it provides such a lil window
    then your going to have anchors left in the roof from wherever the placement was for the fall protection mounts that wont be removed so the roof does not leak
  4. Oct 5, 2012 #4 of 13

    LynnW Cool Member

    Jul 9, 2012
    My neighbor's tree has grown up in front of my ground mounted dish. I need to have the dish mounted near the peak of the roof to get a clear line of sight. This thread makes it sound like that is impossible.
  5. Oct 5, 2012 #5 of 13

    trh This Space for Sale

    Nov 2, 2007
    NE FL
    Not necessarily impossible LynnW, but more challenging. You probably should call DirecTV and schedule to have the dish moved. If they show up and say 'no' because of the proposed location, you might have to hire a local satellite installer than can meet fall protection requirements (which BTW, have been required for years. Nothing recently changed).

    But another concern is that if it's new location requires fall protection, any future service calls/upgrades are going to be just as painful; and probably more costly.
  6. Oct 5, 2012 #6 of 13

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    Is it possible to find another lower location out of the way of that tree?

    Also, keep in mind the direction the main reflector of the dish is pointing is actually somewhat lower than the direction of the signal from the satellite. The dish could be pointing directly at the upper part of a tree, and still have excellent signal (until the tree grows taller).
  7. Oct 7, 2012 #7 of 13

    Jodean Icon

    Jul 17, 2010
    I think its a great idea of Directv!!!! Way to go!! awesome!

    Now i dont have to get off my ladder at all. I refuse to go on the roof anymore. I have so many jobs i really dont care if i cant do one anymore.

    By the way, how on earth would you replace a lnb with 2 feet of snow on a roof on anything over 3/12 pitch!!! Im not going up there even with falls protection. Usually under the snow is nice and smooth ice.

    I had one last year two stories up with the awesome 95% bad lnb and h24-700 problem thing going on with pixelation continuously, they guy had to wait till spring, had to put up with crap service for that long.

    Never did get compensation for changing out about 100 lnbs that winter. Cost me around $2000 in time and gas.

    Problems sovled!!!! dont get off ladder.
  8. Oct 7, 2012 #8 of 13

    ndole Problem Solver

    Aug 26, 2009
    It's an OSHA requirement. It's getting harder and harder to tell which parts of your posts are sarcasm. Do you like working safely, or don't you?
  9. Oct 8, 2012 #9 of 13

    NewForceFiveFan Legend

    Apr 23, 2010
    I switched from E* back to D* in May 2010. We live in a bungalo-style house with front and rear dormers. The old dish had been mounted to the side of the rear dormer where it was for two years after having homes on both the side of enclosed porch on front of house (D* mounted here 1997-2000; E* 2000-2004) and then top of the front dormer on the peak (E* 2004-2008) due to tree growth in back neighbors yard. When the installer came in May 2010 to reinstall Directv he went halfway up the side of the roof of the house to mount the D* and support legs (something the old dishes didn't require). He was a good five-to-ten feet away from his ladder for most of it. The guy had been doing installations for years before moving up the corporate ladder to a desk job. He went back to working in the field because he found the office work boring.
  10. Jodean

    Jodean Icon

    Jul 17, 2010
    that is NOT an osha requirement, directv didnt want to deal with the osha requirements about getting off the ladder, so direct simply said they dont go on the roof anymore. Osha did not prevent anyone from going on the roof, they just have rules you have to follow in order to do so.

    No sarcasm at all, i hate crawling around on roofs. I think its a great directv policy, i ve been worked to death all summer, crawling around on the roof would just add more time to each job.

    I use this excuse all the time now of why im not crawling up a 10/12 pitch roof and trying to fall off.
  11. LynnW

    LynnW Cool Member

    Jul 9, 2012
    So, how high up can you go on a ladder?
  12. samrs

    samrs MANC

    May 30, 2004
    Flat Branch, NC
    All the way to the safe working height.

    I don't know about all offices, but the HSP I work for has several 40 foot ladders. We bring one out if its required. I carry a 32 foot on my van.
  13. trh

    trh This Space for Sale

    Nov 2, 2007
    NE FL
    Huh? In the same sentence, you said it isn't and it is an OSHA requirement.

    Well, it is an OSHA requirement that if you're working higher than a certain height (and it varies by industry), you have to have some form of fall protection. Whether DirecTV wants to pay for the added expense or issue a general policy statement that their workers won't leave the ladder, is a decision they get to make.

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