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DISH Launches dishNET Broadband

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by garys, Sep 27, 2012.

  1. thopki2

    thopki2 AllStar

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    I too, am contracted directly with Exede, but, as are several other subscribers, subject to overnight outages that sometimes go into mid afternoon of the following day. For this reason alone, have considered switching to Dishnet, but upon reading all of the inputs, it looks as if my issues could repeat with Dish because of the sharing agreement. I will be anxious to hear inputs from new DishNet subscribers regarding this issue.
     
  2. jkosnjekarmy

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    Did anybody notice how, in the customer story, that the guy lives in an area that isn't serviced by broadband internet, yet the school issues mostly online homework? It seems like poor foresight on the schools part and lucky timing for the customer in regards to DISHNet Becoming available. Just saying...
     
  3. MIKE0616

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    That sounds like around here. The school board is on a kick of having every kid an iPad and the kids take them home and like I have said before, the DSL is questionable, expensive, and limited in area and the WISP available is the same. All I have been able to figure out is that there are some mighty big bribes at work, otherwise known as typical spending of taxpayer dollars. :(

    Am interested in the Dish offering as it seems like it should be cheaper and more reliable than the other offerings.
     
  4. jimcoe

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    Dish is selling both Exede and HughesNet and branding them both as DishNet. Where you live determines which one you get.
     
  5. chaney

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    the main difference why Dishnet is different from hughes or exede is the satellite it operates on called the jupiter, its much faster, more reliable, and lower cost to maintain and operate. thus the lower costs, and since its dish branded of course dish customers get a break.
     
  6. 4bama

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    That's not quite true.

    DishNet buys bandwidth from both HughesNet satellites (including the Gen4 "Jupiter") and from Wildblue/Exede which includes ViaSat-1.

    Which satellite you get service from with DishNet depends on where you live.

    You get faster speed, unlimited usage from midnight-5am if you buy directly from WB/Exede. Buying directly from HughesNet also has some perks.

    The only advantage you get buying through DishNet is a $5/month discount if you also bundle it with a Dish TV package.

    Compare all 3 options....buy directly from Wildblue/Exede, from HughesNet or from DishNet..but just remember, DishNet does not own nor operate any of the satellites that provide internet services from the Jupiter/Gen4 or ViaSat-1 satellites..they just lease and resell bandwidth from Wildblue/Exede and HughesNet.
     
  7. tsmacro

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    Actually it's $10/mo. But once you add the "equipment charge" of $10/mo they just kinda cancel each other out.
     
  8. 4bama

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    Even if you buy directly from WB/Exede it's also a $9.99/month lease fee for the equipment...they no longer allow customers to buy their own equipment..

    Not sure about the HughesNet fees...

    So you still save $10/month going through DishNet if you bundle..
     
  9. garys

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    The $10 discount is not offered to non-Dish subscribers, so they wind up paying more than what is listed on Dish's site.
     
  10. jgoggan

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    Well, as an update, mine has been working great. It's fast for downloads. In fact, I would argue that it is TOO fast at times -- I might configure my router to slow things down actually so that I don't use so much bandwidth. (For example, I might want to watch just a short clip of a Vimeo video online, but then not the entire thing. With this speed, the entire video gets downloaded quickly -- eating up my bandwidth. So, I think I might throttle myself to like 1Mbps most of the time unless I need to download something big on purpose -- just to keep things reasonable!)

    In any case, I have the 10Mbps/20GB plan. I consistently get anywhere from 15-22Mbps. I'm fairly certain I've seen bursts of 28-30Mbps.

    I had a 5GB update for an Xbox 360 game that I needed to download. Started it during the free period the other night and it was just screaming along -- with no impact on my usage, of course. (Granted, that 2am-8am slot is supposed to be only 10GB also -- but, right now, it is unlimited.)

    Ping times are consistently 700-800ms, which is what I expected.

    I'm on the ViaSat setup.

    - John...
     
  11. jimcoe

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    Dish (Echostar) does own HughesNet.
     
  12. chaney

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    wrong, You get a $10 discount, and the free download and bonus data applies 2am to 8am, because i install it and have the flyer if youd like me to post a pic
     
  13. chaney

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    dish also owns exede, it was previously called wild blue but left a bad taste in its customers mouth about cost vs speed for cost, which is why the rebranding after the launch of the new satellite in february.
     
  14. MIKE0616

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    Huh? Its an independent company, from the info I can find on it.
     
  15. 4bama

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    DishNet does not offer any "Free" download times from the Exede and Gen4 packages...only from packages from their older existing satellites with much slower speeds.

    The Exede/Gen4 plans have split data cap plans...for example the 10/10 plan allows 10GB's anytime usage and 10GB's of use from 2-8am..

    DishNet is not yet enforcing the 2-8am caps but will soon, per their forums.
     
  16. chaney

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    I already knew that, there is a 5/5 plan, a 10/10 plan and a 15/15 plan available for 39.99, 49.99 and 69.99 for dish customers add 10 is not a dish customer
     
  17. jgoggan

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    Yes and no. It isn't advertised that way but, right now, the 2AM-8AM slot appears to be "unlimited" even though it is only supposed to be a 5GB or 10GB bucket. I expect this to change but, right now, it is essentially an unlimited period.

    That is on the "ViaSat" plan -- which is Exede, right? As I said above, I am consistently getting anywhere from 15-22Mbps. I'm fairly certain I've seen bursts of 28-30Mbps. I can't image something else being much faster than that -- so I assume that what I have is an "Exede or Gen4 plan." Is that correct?

    So -- does Dish own ViaSat? From the way I'm reading things, it certainly looks like ViaSat is the real provider -- and even WildBlue was getting it from them. Is ViaSat and WildBlue the same company?

    Agreed. So, effectively, it currently is an unlimited window. :) It just isn't promised or likely to STAY that way.

    - John...
     
  18. 4bama

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    ViaSat owns Wildblue...for conversation purposes they're one and the same for internet services...Wildblue sells Exede...they also sell the older plans, called Legacy...

    DishNet buys bandwidth from ViaSat/WB/Exede to resell under their own plans, rules and regulations...DishNet also buys bandwidth from HughesNet's Gen4 to do the same..

    Some geographic locations can get service from either ViaSat-1/Exede or Gen4 satellite, other locations can only get one or the other..

    Easy way to see if your location can get Exede12 or Exede5 is to go here and enter your zip code...

    http://www.wildblue.com/

    If your location can get service from both the ViaSat-1/Exede12 or the HughesNet Gen4 then others have said you can choose which one you prefer if you buy through DishNet..

    Best overall plan is to buy directly from WB/Exede if you can get the Exede12 service..IMHO
     
  19. jimcoe

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    No, Dish doesn't own Exede. Viasat markets their product via various branding including Wildblue, Exede, Tooway, and others. Dish acquired Hughes within the last couple of years.
     
  20. CeeWoo

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    I'm not a technical type person, but with my Dish TV and blockbuster...wouldn't streaming just a little bit each month eat up the minimum package pretty quickly?

    I ask because we're about ready to dump our land line and the internet package from our local phone company and will need something else for net service
     

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