Dish Needs to Get Moving on 3D

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by Michael1, May 18, 2011.

What is your current interest in 3D?

  1. I own a 3DTV and am anxious for more 3D content

    28 vote(s)
  2. I don't yet own a 3DTV but am planning to buy within the next 6 months

    11 vote(s)
  3. I own a 3DTV but am not really interested in 3D content

    19 vote(s)
  4. I don't own a 3DTV and am not planning on investing in 3D in the near future

    54 vote(s)
  1. FarmerBob

    FarmerBob Godfather

    Nov 27, 2002
    I have a ViewMaster. Don't even think we can get content for it anymore? All of this new fangled technology needs serious refinement before it's pushed in our faces. Even Peter Jackson's Hobbit at 48fps is said to be giving previewers in NZ migraines. A pig with lipstick is still a pig with lipstick. Unless it's in 4K 3D 48fps, then it's a very crisp, clear pig with lipstick in your face at a frame rate that will fry your brain. I'm seeing profits before practicality and that's what's driving most of this. Other than consumer novelty fadism. To get us to abandon what we just bought for something new and "innovative" even though that innovation is not complete and we pay to be Guinea Pigs/beta testers for these products. And what most people don't realize in their call for networks and whatnot to jump on the fad bandwagon, is the cost of and the infrastructure to implement this unrefined technology. They just want what they saw at Walmart. There are many areas that DISH needs to get working/fixed way before worrying about 3D. Innovation is great, just make sure it doesn't turn my brain to anymore mush than it already is and my pocket book any emptier for untried and true products or services or any undue encumbrances on my service providers for services that will not fully work and I will have to pay the bill on.
  2. RasputinAXP

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

    Jan 23, 2008
  3. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    Well in another thread, it looks like yet another 3D channel is biting the dust. ESPN 3D out by the end of year.

    Not boding well for the 3D folks.
  4. RAD

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    That rumor has been floating around for over a year, I'd like to see something more official.

    OK I guess this time it's for real,
  5. RasputinAXP

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

    Jan 23, 2008

    Official confirmation.
  6. tsmacro

    tsmacro Hall Of Fame

    Apr 28, 2005
    Yeah 3-D broadcasts just haven't caught on, it's one of those novelty things, it's kind of cool to watch a movie in 3-D now and then but it seems the vast majority of the people just have no real interest in watching 3-D all the time.
  7. 356B

    356B Icon

    Oct 11, 2008
    True.....Although most if not all the high end TVs come with 3D. Whether they continue only time will tell. Personally I like the novelty for certain types of movies, everything,
    I was hopeful Blockbuster by mail would carry them. They advertise some movies in 3D but when you get them there're not, that been my experience anyway......
  8. karrank%

    karrank% AllStar

    Sep 20, 2009
    3D displays always slightly nauseated me anyway, not that it matters. This was a simple economic decision.
  9. dpeters11

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    A large number of people with a 3D TV have no interest in 3D. I know I'm one, I don't even have any glasses.
  10. 356B

    356B Icon

    Oct 11, 2008
    Well good for you and bully for them......... :icon_cool
  11. djlong

    djlong Hall Of Fame

    Jul 8, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Until they perfect the non-glasses version of 3D, it'll be a novelty.

    The first company to put out a *good* (i.e. bright, wide viewing angle, etc) 3D screen that doesn't require glasses might have a license to print money.
  12. BillJ

    BillJ Icon

    May 5, 2005
    3D is proving to be mostly a fad once again. On our recent visit to the local movieplex we noticed how many of the teenage customers in line at the ticket window were opting for the 2D version of a movie that would have seemed an ideal 3D action flick. This theater usually offers both versions at the same time and the upcharge for 3D is only a dollar. These kids were telling the movie industry they don't like 3D all that much.

    I still think someday we'll have popular 3D but it won't require glasses and it won't have the possibility of making you queezy. I remember the first 3D movies in the 50s. Certainly much better today but still more of a novelty than a must have.
  13. lee635

    lee635 Hall Of Fame

    Apr 17, 2002
    Before E* invests heavy in 3D, there needs to be more stability in that market. ESPN is pulling the plug on its 3D network. Looking at E*'s current channel lineup, I think their resources would be better spent on upgrading every existing channel to include an HD version of the channel. There are still some multiplex movie channels where E* doesn't offer an HD feed.

    RE: Frankly, most of the people saying they don't like 3D are older. My middle school son has gotten sick two times in a row watching 3D movies. Now he won't watch them. My high school daughter on the other hand likes the 3D movies.

    It's good to be on-time with emerging technology like 3D, but not too far ahead of the wave. With the very limited installed base, this seems like a good niche market for a 3D version of Netflix or Hulu, except those folks are likely also waiting for more 3D to sell.

    Thanks, Lee
  14. gov

    gov Legend

    Jan 11, 2013
    Mebbee if the ESPN 3D channel was in the regular lineup area adjacent to channels 206, 207, 208 etc. ??

    Just having to hunt for it is a put off.
  15. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Gold Club DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    Not much of a hunt ... The 3D channels on that provider were all together in the low 100s. Having all of the original HD channels together in a range (70-79 + 99 on DirecTV and 9420-9467 on DISH) did not seem to stop HD from growing. It made the channels easy to find for those with appropriate equipment.

    I agree that channel placement is important ... not critical but important to the success of a channel. But I would not blame the failure of ESPN 3D on channel placement.
  16. Rduce

    Rduce Legend

    May 15, 2008
    The only blame here is that every 20-25 years some genius trots out 60 year old technology and tries to sell it as the latest cutting edge. The powers to be make a few bucks on it before interests dies and it's put in the back of the closet again.
  17. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Gold Club DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    The technology is good ... I do not expect ESPN's decision to back away from 3D to kill 3D movies. The technology just need to improved for the average home viewer and content needs to be developed that is so much better than the alternative that more people consider 3D the better choice.

    3D isn't dead. HD is just good enough that 3D isn't required to be the next improvement.
  18. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010

    And, yes, 3D has been around for over 100 years, but today's advancements are a far cry from stereoscopes of the 19thC.

    Powers that be? There're all sorts of players in the 3D arena.
  19. 356B

    356B Icon

    Oct 11, 2008
    I guess the manufactures and the studios are just throwing good money after bad......when I bought a 3D Samsung in 09 I read here that 3D was a passing fancy and in a year or two it would be gone or at least a niche market. Since then the Passive format seems to be replacing the Active, the glasses are more user friendly, much cheaper, interchangeable in some cases with other brands....It appears R&D is going into this 60/100 year old technology to make it better and more affordable.
    Last I looked 3D is an feature in most any TV over 1000 bucks, like it or not it seems to me 3D is not going away anytime soon.
    Personally I was surprised ESPN featured 3D...why?.... the Syfy Channel.....? now that's a whole different situation. To each their own.......Happy Fathers Day Dads.......
  20. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    3D is dying just like it always has. The reason they are selling 3D in any real numbers at all is that the better sets come with it. Little to do with consumer acceptance or use of 3D.

    With ESPN3D going away, there's what, 1 channel left and it is mostly demonstration type stuff, hardly compelling. The local video store carries so few 3D titles it isn't worth going there to rent one and of course that is exacerbated by the fact that way too many 3D movies are not very good at all.

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