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Dish Needs to Get Moving on 3D

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by Michael1, May 18, 2011.

What is your current interest in 3D?

  1. I own a 3DTV and am anxious for more 3D content

    28 vote(s)
  2. I don't yet own a 3DTV but am planning to buy within the next 6 months

    11 vote(s)
  3. I own a 3DTV but am not really interested in 3D content

    19 vote(s)
  4. I don't own a 3DTV and am not planning on investing in 3D in the near future

    54 vote(s)
  1. jcrobso

    jcrobso AllStar

    Mar 30, 2005
    One broadcast sources says that 3D sales are slumping, not a big sales item. The 3D HDTV cost more the price of the glasses needed to watch is BIG$$$. The demos in stores are not good most of the glasses are missing or broken.
    3D in theaters is one thing but at home is more or less ho-hm.
  2. jwktiger05

    jwktiger05 Cool Member

    Jul 31, 2011
    Swanni @ TV Predictions has several great posts about how overhyped 3D is and its not something people care about
  3. Rduce

    Rduce Legend

    May 15, 2008
    I think this may put things into perspective; Best Buy lists 6057 BluRay titles on their website. Only 53 of them are in 3D. There really just isn’t any interest in 3D and the initial hype has waned.
  4. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    That's not an indicator of anything, really, other than Best Buy carries most 3D titles. There's only about 66 3D titles on the market, currently.
  5. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    It is an indicator of availability of 3D titles... but I agree it isn't an indicator of interest in 3D.

    When there aren't many titles available, it's hard to gauge consumer interest.

    BUT... it's valid when saying that "Dish needs to get moving on 3D"... because if the leading movie companies have only produced 66 Blu-ray releases in 3D... and there are only a couple of 3D channels available... then it is hard to say Dish is very behind in 3D at this point.

    Ticket sales at the box office have began to reflect that people care less about 3D than they do a good movie. GOOD 3D movies still sell well... but bad 3D movies no longer have that "new car smell" that drives people to buy tickets.

    So... I think Dish would be smart to take the wait and see approach before investing too much in 3D technology.
  6. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    Agreed. I think it's smart that Dish is waiting. I enjoy 3D, but there's no reason to invest in it like DirecTV seems to be doing.
  7. olguy

    olguy Hall Of Fame

    Jan 9, 2006
    I wonder how many of those 6057 are actually new movies that were released in the last couple or 3 years? I have several that are old movies remastered to bluray. Click here for a site that lists 67 3D movies that are to be/have been released in 2011 and 2013. Numbers are fun aren't they? If the folks who say 3D is just a fad that has no place in their home are correct then those of us who have 3D sets will not have a use for them in a few years and they can crow "I told you so!" In the meantime I for one will enjoy my 3D TVs. And my Panny bluray that does a decent job of converting 2D DVDs to 3D. And the Panny plasma that will convert any signal to 3D. Not perfect maybe but we enjoy them.
  8. Rduce

    Rduce Legend

    May 15, 2008
    Granted many of those movie are not now or will never be offered in 3D, but my opinion comes from reading many online sites.





    If you one of those that enjoys 3D that's fine with you, but I really feel that it will disappear once again, just like all the other incarnations have.
  9. jcrobso

    jcrobso AllStar

    Mar 30, 2005
    Digital audio didn't existent in the 70s, But now it does and multi-channel sounds good.
  10. Joe Bernardi

    Joe Bernardi Legend

    May 27, 2003
    I'm not wearing 3D glasses over my prescription glasses.

    I'd be happy if the cable & satellite providers would just show uncompressed, full 1920 x 1080P.
  11. jcrobso

    jcrobso AllStar

    Mar 30, 2005
    I now own 5 HDTVs none are 3D.
    I saw Avatar twice in 3D at the theater, when I got the BR DVD and watched is at home I was amazed at how much more detail I could see and I became more aware of the sound track, interesting. I started thinking about this and realized that the brain processing time of the 3D was detracting from the audio perception. I run a lot of live sound, when I really want to hear the mix I close my eyes so I can concentrate on the sound.
    Lately when I go to the show I see the 2D version of the movie, getting tired of the $$ for the glasses and wearing them.:(
  12. mike1977

    mike1977 Legend

    Aug 26, 2005
    Are they going to fill in the missing HD premium channels, which they have but only in SD? Like HBO2 West, MoreMax, Sho Extreme, Sho Beyond, TMC extra?

    I'd like to see them get moving on that.
  13. Jim5506

    Jim5506 Hall Of Fame

    Jun 7, 2004
    The audience for full time RSN's in HD is much greater than any audience for 3D.
  14. tampa8

    tampa8 Godfather/Supporter

    Mar 30, 2002
    Yes, not even close.
  15. FarmerBob

    FarmerBob Godfather

    Nov 27, 2002
    At the moment 3D is an over hyped diverse non-established "universal" specification that is no different than the HDMI group, Betamax/VHS or Blu-ray/HDDisc fighting matches. It's the movie theaters that have a set, somewhat, format that may not translate to LCD 3D. It will to my DLP. Because that's what they are using. Dish could adopt one of the pre-specs that may not work with your particular 3D TV because they're not the same. Until they come up with a solid set specification, which means you may need to buy a new TV, it's basically a crap shoot/moot point. Although they do have several levels of hardware, i.e., HDMI 1.4 and the 4k DLP projection (which Mitsubishi uses) that is in place but may not work in trickle down conversion. But until they are firm standards on the market, it is foolish for any "3rd party" vendor (DISH) to latch on to a format. It could end up being "not the one" in the end. It is way to early in the game for a group such as DISH to grab a format. If they what to broadcast something that is already 3D, I trust it may be "this image may not appear as intended".

    PLUS, it is being found out that 3D may not be the best thing for the human condition. They have found may idiosyncrasies that the human body just can't assimilate to. For instance, Johnny Depp, as there are many, did not go to the opening of the last Pirates 3D premier, because he can not see 3D as it is at the moment. The situation is so early in its infancy for anyone to really jump in and go for it and expect it to last for the long run. But what with the fastly growing population of those that really want it, the process of finalizing and final standard shouldn't be long off.
  16. evnow

    evnow Mentor

    Aug 23, 2011
    We have seen the exact justifications given earlier for not moving quickly on HD.

    All businesses have to act both tactically & strategically. Just saying channel xyz will get more audience and thus not invest in a new technology can stagnate and cost the business mindshare and finally marketshare.

    ps : I used to post using a different alias. Decided to change it to keep it consistant everywhere.
  17. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    What "were" you?
  18. HDlover

    HDlover Godfather

    Jul 28, 2006
    Could easily make 3D VOD. Dish is passing up an added revenue source.
  19. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    DISH has 3D VOD on the 922 ... if one really wants 3D one can pay (revenue source) for an upgrade to a 922.

    There are other upgrades to DISH's system which would be a greater revenue source and expanding 3D to other receivers.
  20. BillJ

    BillJ Icon

    May 5, 2005
    Saw yesterday that DirecTV is dropping ESPN 3D. Not many subscribers willing to pay for it.

    The jury is still out on 3D. Even the movie producers are backing away a little. The novelty has worn off. Sure, I'd buy a large screen 3D TV because the best TVs for 2D currently all include 3D capability, but I don't think I watch much, if any, 3D programming.

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