Dish Needs to Update Hopper 3 To Accomodate Larger External Hardrive

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  1. patmurphey

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    Don't have the number at hand, but the charging feature was discussed at Hopper3b rollout. I discussed it with "he who shall not be named":D. Again, not supported because of compatibility with other ports, but much more likely to work than the USB2 ports everywhere else.
     
  2. jhsanchez

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    To repeat my initial question which has been lost in the powered/non-powered stuff. Will the Hopper 3 support drives larger than 1TB? That is the question.
     
  3. thomasjk

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  4. Blowgun

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    Here is your initial question in this thread:
    That was already answered.

    It depends on how the 1TB hard drive is powered. And, with that we have now gone full circle. :)
     
  5. P Smith

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    not yet - he didn't answer to questions about a model of his USB drive :(
    it could have DC connector to powering it by additional adapter say AC to 5VDC 1A
     
  6. jhsanchez

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    I finally broke down and purchased a powered USB hub from Amazon. Drive is now recognized and formatted. Interesting the a new icon appears on the DVR page saying that I can select to record on the internal drive or the USB drive. I can also transfer recorded programs to the USB drive - life is good. BTW, this drive is a 2TB Seagate backup drive from Costco.
     
  7. P Smith

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    can't deduct what model you got ... Seagate manufacturing a lot of different models
     
  8. patmurphey

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    No, the DVR page icon only allows you to select the source of recordings to watch. You cannot record directly to the EHD, you can only transfer already recorded shows to the EHD.
     
  9. jhsanchez

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    You are correct, I misstated.
     
  10. Jim5506

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    The 2 TB drive limit is caused by the format/boot system placed on the drive. If you exceed 2.2TB you must up the ante to a more sophisticated formatting scheme.

    For Dish to make receivers compatible with larger drive would necessitate either completely replacing the drive format, making it incompatible with older receiver EHD's or use up valuable ROM for a more complex OS.

    Windows has the same problem, NTFS with its MBR boot has a 2TB limit, so larger drives must be formatted GPT which can define drives larger than 2.2TB.

    In order for Linux based OSes to support drives larger than 2.2TB they too must use EFI/GPT partition tables, so I would not look for Dish to support larger drives any time soon.
     
  11. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    good essay, but no cigar :)
    1st - the HDD has no booting code
    2nd - MBR or GPT doesn't matter for any Linux, both of them supporting
    3rd - new HDD has 4K sectors, so current LBA routines will serve HDD size of "2TB x8"
    4th - dish support EHD > 2TB in older H/H2
     
  12. MikeRobertson

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    A little late to the party on this one, but thought I'd add my experience with EHD's on my H3. First of all Dish seems to have little knowledge of the inner workings. End of last year my H3 stopped "seeing" my EHD. Drive had functioned without a problem on 3 or 4 models of DISH DVR's. Okay, figured drive had finally bit the dust. Bought a new 2TB drive. Didn't see it. Bought a different 2TB drive. Didn't see that one either. Called DISH tech support. Long story short, when through 2 replacement H3's and had a tech come out. No joy. No one could get an H3 to see any of the drives. Left a drive attached (was a WD My Book 3TB drive which was the last one I tried). Three months ago, after another software update, my H3 recognized my EHD. Yes, it's a 3TB drive. When I moved programs off my H3 to the drive it said I had 2792GB available. So my 3TB drive seems to work just fine. At least until DISH screws around with the software. By the way my old 1TB drive that I thought had died (I had over 60 movies recorded on it) was still running just fine. Unfortunately, I had to reformat it test it and lost my recordings. Worked just fine as a Mac OS X boot disk.
     
  13. P Smith

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    I don't know what to say ! Incompetence over hiding facts...
     
  14. Tu MadRe

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    I'm on a manhunt for storage but also upgrading but I do have the regular hopper w/ joey's wifi boxs


    but what's a goooooood brand & model if I were to buy a 2TB external hard drive for the hopper 3..


    (I was going to buy any brand but is there certain brands that DVR can ONLY read? Since I hear about the storage limit).
     
  15. P Smith

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    nope
    no such "ONLY read" drives
    some does prefer WD [AV type], some Seagate
     
  16. P Smith

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    what ?
    what limit ? not again :(
     
  17. Tu MadRe

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    WD or seagate ? Those are the good brands?? But some of the amazon comments bothered me since i don't want to pay for old product
     
  18. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    buy new drives
    what other brand you know ?
     
  19. Jim5506

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    Any external drive that is self powered, single spindle and USB 2.0 compatible (3.0 will work).

    I use SATA docks with multiple internal drives that I swap out as needed. The only drawback is the internal drives with no shielding can cause interference with other devices.

    I also use smaller drives like 250, 500 1000MB because large drives 2TB, 3TB is just asking for the loss of everything when the inevitable drive failure comes visiting - I speak from personal experience.
     
  20. P Smith

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    it has minuscule effect and never been a drawback in real life of PC, DVR, a home, etc
     

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