Dish Needs to Update Hopper 3 To Accomodate Larger External Hardrive

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  1. z3540

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    Hello All,
    Saw this thread while researching trouble with my EHD. I just upgraded to H3 4 months ago and tried to use a 500GB Maxtor EHD but it would not get recognized. I have used it in several Dish boxes (Vip 622, Dish Hopper with Sling). I have lots of shows archived on it. Anyway, I tried a Western Digital My Passport Essential SE 1TB USB 3.0(WDBACX0010BBL) using the supplied cable plugged into the USB 3.0 port at the rear. It works plugged into just the USB 3.0 port!
    1. Using USB port to power EHD is possible but ymmv.
    2. Anyone know why my Maxtor 500GB EDH is not recognized? Have searched many websites and this site but have not found an answer. Apologies to the thread starter for hijacking post but it seems like he got his answer.
    3. Agree with Jim5506's suggestion of using smaller Drives to archive. If my EHD is dead then I just lost 500GB worth of shows. :-( Will be using the 1TB for now since that is all that I have atm.
     

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  2. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    kinda opposite of the topic ... but giving the answer is not easy; most likely it's your _enclosure_ eg internal SATA/IDE controller, perhaps Maxtor's SMART is not good or not supporting

    Do get, install and run GsmartControl program and post its TXT output with SMART data here to continue troubleshooting.
     
  3. Jim5506

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    Try tuning an AM radio with an open drive in a dock nearby.

    The dock has a bare drive out in the open with no shielding around the electronics.
     
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  4. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    duh?
    my small portable FM radio sit in near proximity of TWO TT docks and have no issue with OTA reception !

    if you will think how the HDD electronics working and how the dock pass FCC tests, you wouldn't spread the WAG :(
     
  5. skc29

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    I agree, they should provide support for at least 12TB external desktop hard drives, including bigger portable drives. I even tried 8TB single drive(not double), even that was not recognized by Hopper3. In the era of 4K video, it will be very difficult to survive with only 2TB support. Come on Dish, are you listening?
     
  6. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    seems to me dish legacy routines inherit by newest H3 model; if you did read old threads where we dissect the aspect of big EHD, you should remember - dish coders didn't creative in support HDD bigger then 500 GB, they are did choose to make partitioning of 1-2-3-4 TB similar to initial choice: so each big drive divided to 500 GB separate partitions;
    perhaps 4+ TB drives have to have a lot of 0.5 TB chunks and exceeded max number of it ...
     
  7. scooper

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    For larger HD support, Dish (Echostar) would need to change the file system / write some code that goes in the bootsector to fake out the older routines. Or simply not support more than 2TB in older systems.

    Bottom line - there are probably ways to do it, will Echostar invest the resources to do it ?
     
  8. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Nope. They could continue use partitions for HDD > 2 TB same way, just mod some routines in FW, what formatting HDD and does verification file system, eg accept 2 TB size instead of 0.5 TB current limit.
    BTW, "boot sector" is not about boot, but other part of it as sector0, what have a dedicated name MBR and GPT.
     
  9. scooper

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    P Smith -

    I've learned (and let slip) more on Harddrives and partitioning than anybody besides you and me understand - I used the "boot sector" phrase to express this for the non-tech elites.
     
  10. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Oh, OK. Got it. My take is use correct naming and let people to learn themselves - search Internet, here or Wiki,etc
     

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