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DISH Network™ Offers Free High Definition DVR

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by James Long, Jan 8, 2007.

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  1. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    When D* lights a new satellite they will have capacity. That is all. Call me when they have 20 more national HD channels up to match E*'s lineup.

    It does look like they are heading that way, with Liberty/DirecTV possibly buying Voom HD they will have the content for 15 more channels. Also the additional capacity will mean that they MAY not have to turn off HD channels in order to show HD sports (what, no TNT-HD because of some football game?).

    Capacity is where one puts programming. That's all they will have until they put programming there. Call me then. :)
     
  2. Mark06111

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    I like Dish, but I'm not a solid proponent. Not even now that HD upgrade, or what was last known as an upgrade is hardware fee free. I paid $300 for the 622 a year ago. That's an "unrefundable" $300. They still own the receiver. I picked up HD Silver + std def locals (Hartford). I lived through perhaps 3 - 6 months of "bugs" and lived with the SW downloads and more "bugs". Essentially I paid for being an "alpha" tester. Now a "NEW" customer gets it for "NOTHING" while "existing" customers, those of us who've lived through the pain get "NOTHING".

    Thanks Dish! And I hope ScoBuck is right !!! Just might be movin' on... and I'll drag a few folks with me too.
     
  3. Rebollos

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    I agree with you 100%!!!!!!

    But if you are an existing customer that wants to upgrade to HD, the 622 will be free, right?
     
  4. James Long

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    A correction has been posted by Echostar to the press release ---
    Add to first sentence of first graph: starting Feb. 1, 2007.

    EchoStar Communications Corporation (Nasdaq: DISH) and its DISH Network™ satellite TV service announced today that starting Feb. 1, 2007, it will offer new DISH Network customers the highly-acclaimed, high definition ViP622 DVR™ receiver for free as part of the Digital Home Advantage Program. The ViP622 DVR is the first HD DVR in the satellite industry to be offered with no upfront cost to new subscribers, giving viewers a unique opportunity to experience the exciting world of HD and commercial-free TV.​
    Initial post corrected to match.
     
  5. jgoggan

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    If Dish could bring me the networks (ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX) in HD, then I'd jump at this (or the $200 622 deal for existing people). But, right now, it looks like only D* has any chance of doing that. I'd be switching to them right now if their HD DVR didn't have so many bugs...

    I want Dish's 622 with DirecTV's ability to give me the networks in HD. THEN I'd be set. It's seriously all I want -- and I'd be willing to pay a pretty penny for it too most likely. But, currently, it just can't be done without going with D* (and, again, that means getting a HD DVR even more buggy than the 921 was from what I'm gathering)... :(

    - John...
     
  6. Nick

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    The...
    What is it you don't understand about "...starting Feb. 1, 2007..."?
     
  7. ScoBuck

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    Yeah they do turn off TNT for a few hours to show NFL ST - what DISH channel numbers are they on?

    For a moderator, you are very confrontational. My first post CLEARLY said that they would take the lead by mid-year, not that they lead now. Not to get your DISH cackles up or anything. Geez - chill out, enjoy your HD lead for the short remaining time you have it. Then you can CALL ME.
     
  8. Mojito05

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    My cat's name is Mittens.
     
  9. cnmsales

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    Dont think so, I called tonight and CSR didnt know about it but put me on hold to ask. She said the current offer for the rebates is set to end the 31st.
     
  10. Stewart Vernon

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    I think what many of us are referring to is capacity vs content. Yes, DirecTV will have more available capacity after launching new satellites... but until actual HD channels emerge Dish will still lead in number of HD channels.

    Now, even though I am a Dish customer and happy... I don't get into the competition "mine is better than yours" stuff, because DirecTV has some things Dish doesn't and vice-versa.

    Even before capacity was an issue, Dish had TNTHD for about a year before DirecTV added it... Similarly, UniversalHD and ESPN2HD were on DirecTV for almost as long before Dish added them. Right now, Dish has some channels in HD that DirecTV doesn't... but I'm sure that will change too.

    It's not like DirecTV is going to suddenly add 40 new HD channels in a few months, and Dish will be years away from adding the same ones. Until these HD channels that DirecTV thinks they will add actually exist, I can't even worry about them anyway.

    Now, if and when DirecTV actually adds something in HD that Dish doesn't have (like for example the RSNs in HD that DirecTV has right now) then we can complain and talk about why they have something we can't get from Dish.

    Until actual channels exist, the "150 channel HD capacity" means as close to nothing as possible to me. It is entirely likely that by the time there are 150 new HD channels to fill that capacity, it will be a few years from now and by then Dish will have launched more birds too.

    Arguing over capacity to hold channels that are vaporware really doesn't mean much for the moment.
     
  11. HuggieBear

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    Looks like I will be keeping my 211 since I am not a NEW SUBSCRIBER shucks foiled yet again! that dang fine print will get ya every time :)
     
  12. harsh

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    According to a post in another thread, D* has put HD LIL on hold until this coming fall. If D* isn't carrying your market now, they probably won't be for another 9 months or more.
     
  13. James Long

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    That was not in the initial release (as noted in the edit and a following post). Many of the press releases contain "call now" statements when nothing is ready yet.
     
  14. James Long

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    Yeah, that's the way it will work out. :rolleyes:

    I get a little short when someone wonders in and pushes D* in this forum. I make it a point not to go into the D* forums and gloat about E*. It is just bad form. There are areas where E* needs to improve (including HD RSNs and DVR fees for 2nd receivers) but there are also areas where D* is in need of improvement (including price points and missing channels).

    BET J, Lifetime Real Women, Logo, PBS Kids Sprout and currently CourtTV. Five channels that are not public interest or shopping that D* has and E* is missing. Two HBO, Two Cinemax, three Showtime and three Starz ... and 20 HD channels. That's the top of what D* is missing. E* will get HD RSNs ... eventually D* will add more HD themselves, but don't confuse capacity with carriage.

    Four years ago two companies made the mistake of assuming that HD was ready to release. E* launched their SuperDish and had capacity based claims of how many HD channels would be offered. Voom started an entire service niched on HD. Neither turned out very well. E* eventually got some HD channels --- half of them from Voom --- but it was nearly two years after the "promise". Voom simply couldn't find enough interested people to pay off their investment --- except Charlie who liked the satellite service so much he bought the DBS company!

    So now it is D* turn. Huge capacity claims, but will they have the channels? There is a good chance that they will get Voom ... even if Liberty doesn't buy the company. But I suspect we will see them with the same basic channels as E*. Time will tell.
     
  15. cdub998

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    I appoligize. I didn't see the date when I first read it. Yeah chastized for not reading. :lol:
     
  16. minnow

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    My understanding is that much of what is on TNT-HD is not really HD programming anyways, so when Directv turns off TNT-HD for the game, one is not really missing anything that they can't see by changing the receiver to the regular TNT channel.
     
  17. cable_killer

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    you will need to wait and see, it may be qualified it may not be once your account is active you are given a 0-15 day free upgrade, after 15 days, there is a charge. with the new promotions going in, you need to wait and see
     
  18. ScoBuck

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    Again, you NEED to re-read my first post. It had really nothing to do with DirecTV, it DIDN't PUSH D* in any way, it was strictly a comment regarding the new marketing strategy by DISH to offer a free HD DVR (which WOULD make sense from their standpoint). My gut tells me for sure that this push to get new HD subs NOW is to lock them in before DirecTV lights up its new bird. I in NO WAY slammed DISH, and you need to acknowledge that, not tell me not to post in this thread. It is YOU that has begun the flaming, and taken this the wrong way - not good for a mod IMO.
     
  19. jgoggan

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    Don't apologize to Nick for ripping into you when it wasn't called for. When you read that first post, the note about the date was NOT in it (because Dish hadn't added it to the press release yet even!)

    He was rude to pick on you for your statement when it was a perfectly reasonable question when you posted it. As a Super Moderator later pointed out, Nick was wrong in his post -- because it didn't say February 1st when you asked the question. No need for YOU to apologize...

    - John...
     
  20. MikeR7

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    Yes, that was rude Nick. But I think Nick was just joking too.
     
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