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DISH Network and Fox Networks Reach Comprehensive Programming Agreement

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by James Long, Oct 29, 2010.

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  1. Oct 29, 2010 #41 of 135
    Jhon69

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    We may have to wait until Feb. 1st,2011?.
     
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    david91722

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    Yeah! Gotta laugh at all the people who wrote: "Dish Network R.I.P. 1996-2010".

    Long live E*! :goodjob:

    I feel bad, though, for all the longtime E* subs who jumped ship (some of them reluctantly) to D* and now have a contract with them. Let this be a lesson to you. Patience is a virtue. :D
     
  3. Oct 29, 2010 #43 of 135
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    Why would you feel bad for them? With the exception of a few issues with both providers. Everyone should be fairly happy. (subscribers to various sports packages relying on RSN's being an exception on one side)
     
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    david91722

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    They had to go through everything involved in the hassle of switching. I concede for some it may not have been much of an inconvenience, but I mostly feel bad for the people who liked E*, and for one reason or another may not like their experience with D*. Now they are tied down by a contract with a hefty ETF.
     
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    Jhon69

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    It's what you would call a learning experience.I have done it myself,I came back to Dish Network it's just a better fit for me.For someone else it may not be,we shall see.;)
     
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    david91722

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    Some people have to learn. Others already have the knowledge. :cool:
     
  7. Oct 29, 2010 #47 of 135
    James Long

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    DISH will not die or live over one issue. There have been too many "this will kill DISH" issues over the year that they survived.


    Fortunately the deals were pretty good. And if they have any problems figuring out their new system we have a forum full of people (overflowing) who are willing to help.

    And perhaps some installers will get a break as the last of the panic installs get canceled.
     
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    Most of us veterans were counseling patience, that FOX and Dish will get this worked out eventually - as they did. For some - they simply HAD to have their sports nets NOW and they made their decision on what they felt was their best choice at the time.
     
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    Glad to see it got settled. Hope it was a good deal for everyone.
     
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    Got a email from Dish just now, they want me back and offer to take 15 bucks off my programming for 12 months. No, thanks. I am watching the NY Rangers MSG game on CI and the HD is stunning. BYE BYE
     
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    http://www.latimes.com/business/fi-ct-dish-20101030,0,824095.story?track=rss


    "Fox is definitely the winner here; they are going to be paid quite a bit of money," said Derek Baine, cable television analyst with SNL Kagan. "I didn't understand Dish's PR strategy. If you are a consumer, you just want your channels and you don't care about the back-room negotiations between the programmers and the distributors."

    A pretty good unbiased article. I am sure more will leak in the future.
     
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    I have no doubt that Fox came out better in this dispute, to what degree I do not know. Dish was in a bad spot from the very beginning...as any service provider would be. Fox always had the stronger hand.
     
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    Never will be #1 as long as they can't provide the channel of our National pastime(MLB Net) or YES for New York fans;)
     
  14. Oct 29, 2010 #54 of 135
    James Long

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    Wasn't he one of the trolls (not you, but the quoted article) that was blasting DISH over this from the beginning? Seems like "unbiased" might be a stretch.

    DISH wins by being able to sell the programming at a markup. That is the way the business works. It is stupid to consider Fox a winner just because DISH pays them. This isn't Judge Judy with the winner getting the cash. This is what is supposed to be a cooperation between programmer and carrier.
     
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    Hoosier205

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    Good point James.
     
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    calgary2800

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    When does Dish rates the package rates?
     
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    James Long

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    Normally in February with DirecTV following in March (effective month) but DISH made other adjustments in February and the rate bump in June this year so they may be off cycle next year.
     
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    I wouldn't be so sure about this after all wasn't one of the sticking points supposedly that Fox wanted their channels in the AT120? If all the sudden FX and the Fox Sports Channels were in the AT120 i'd be more convinced that FOX was a "winner".
     
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    James Long

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    As that LA Times article states:
    While Fox fell short in its bid to get wider distribution on Dish for its sports channels, it succeeded in wrangling higher payments for all its channels.​

    How much higher is a question. I can't imagine a renewal contract without some increase (a couple of percent) unless the channels lost value.
     
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    I agree - there will be some rate increase (and maybe a schedule for the next couple years), but If FOX isn't getting the wider distribution it wanted -
     
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