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DISH Network and Fox Networks Reach Comprehensive Programming Agreement

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by James Long, Oct 29, 2010.

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  1. Deke Rivers

    Deke Rivers Legend

    Jan 8, 2007
    same here..other than that show I wouldnt even have known the channels were gone until Justified starts back up
  2. dakeeney

    dakeeney Legend

    Aug 29, 2004
    I'm glad I didn't jump ship.
  3. Greg Bimson

    Greg Bimson Hall Of Fame

    May 5, 2003
    The LA Times article only mentions that there wasn't wider distribution of the RSN's. There was no mention of FX or NatGeo.

    I'm expecting that FX would most likely be put in AT120. But who knows?
  4. Jhon69

    Jhon69 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 27, 2006
    Central San...

    FX might but I wouldn't hold my breath.;):D

    Who can you believe if you can't believe the LA Times?.;)
  5. grog

    grog Godfather

    Jul 2, 2007
    I think a lot depends on why someone left. For many including myself the FOX issue was just an added reason to make a change that we had already thought about doing.

    I do have a friend who was ready to switch but only due to the lack of FOX stations. I have a feeling he will say with Dish now that the issue is resolved and if so I have a couple of extra RF remotes I purchased that he may find useful.

    I did not pay to get out of my contract since I was no in one.

    I did however leave Dish during the FOX rounds.

    To answer your question.

    The change is going much better than expected.

    We had several issues that were long standing and add the FOX issue was the reason we left.

    Random reboot of both our VIP622's. They were replaced a couple of times. Still random reboots. In the end it just seemed to be a glitch as others reported the same issues. Loss of SAT signal that pressing guide and back cleared up. Disabled all OTA channels since lose of signal on OTA could cause the same issue. While I had two external hard drives on both VIP622's it was hard to deal with what was recorded where. Both bedrooms had SD feeds but HD sets.

    So something needed to change but I had no strong reason to fix the issues. My wife would get upset when she lost signal during a game. But with those problems we lived with it.

    For MLB we signed up for access via the network as Dish stopped MLB. This involved setting up a media center and training the wife to use it to access MLB and all her games.

    There were stations that were dropped by Dish and we did not like to see them go but we stayed with Dish anyway.

    Thing is; when FOX was dropped we were having a large number of reboots with both VIP622's. We knew we had to change something and Dish gave us the reason to look elsewhere.

    We are glad Dish gave us the incentive to look around.

    No random reboots. We have the sports channels we want. All the rooms are in HD now. We have two HD-DVR's but now we can play the content of all our recorded shows anywhere in the home.

    A large number of channels also include VOD content that is all free.

    Been watching a few 1080P free movies from the VOD channels.

    So yes we are happy we left. Seems it was a good move for us. :)

  6. ENDContra

    ENDContra Cool Member

    Dec 8, 2006
    Any word on if these negotiations included additions of any channels or full time RSNs? Really glad this has been taken care of before basketball season.
  7. Paul Secic

    Paul Secic Hall Of Fame

    Dec 16, 2003
    +1 I
  8. Nov 1, 2010 #108 of 135

    Santi360HD Icon

    Oct 6, 2008
    New York City

    Lets see....No Yes Network...ever
    MSG Pulled
    I live on NYC and this would pose a problem

    no MLB Channel, nor the MLB PPV packages
    Some of the ESPN channels relegated to SD that were once in HD
    No NFL Sunday Ticket package..

    While the FOX issue was resolved ...but it lurked like a fart that took while to get wind of the whiff..heh heh thats about as close of an example I could give about what could of happened on 11/1 to Fox on E*

    Im glad I have D* with its no promise or future of anymore HD's ...They've fulfilled my sports fix...I give thanks back in 2005 when I left Time Warner for satellite and went to D*...and never dealt with E*...in fact the YES channel absent was a reason I never got DISH-N...All I've had issue with on D* was the VS channel dispute and the dwindle down additions of more HD after the wave from this past summer..

    I am also fortunate that my satellite dish is on a rooftop...not bolted outside a window...so 6 floors up facing the Hudson...I am the 1st one to say rain SELDOMLY knocks my signal out.

    good luck going fwd fellow E* subscribers...
  9. Nov 1, 2010 #109 of 135

    356B Icon

    Oct 11, 2008
    Lots of words to "Justify" the position on the Direct side.......like I said....
    Originally Posted by 356B
    Hey all you dishTV deserters......:new_smili who... oh by the way, payed the (get me out of here money) :preach:........how's that working out for ya......?:icon_da:

  10. Nov 1, 2010 #110 of 135

    GrumpyBear Hall Of Fame

    Feb 1, 2006
    If you need your Baseball, and feel like spending $400-$500+ a year, on NFL and MLB, Direct is your only choice. Personally, I have better things to spend $400-$500+ a year on, than just 2 sports packages.

    I prefer Dish with its More HD channels in its National Packages and in the Platinum package, vs having to spend $100's more a year on extra's add-on packages, to get HD channels.

    Dish has done a great job of making the Platinum package worth while, and as a addon to the AT200 and AT250 just have more watchable HD channels. Throw in, the Multisports package with NFL Redzone included, adding in Netflix, saving lots of money, and getting more, channels in general and more HD channels overall. Had friends over today, who thought FoxMo was a HD channel, had to explain it was just SD, they were sure Dish had FoxMo in HD, as it looked so much better, than what they were used to seeing on thier Direct SD version, granted all the SD versions look better on Dish than Direct, and still lots of SD channels out there, with shows we all watch here. I have been streaming any NFL football game to my TV for 2 years now, and it only costs me a $1 a game, sure beats $300 this year, and over $400 in Years past, to watch NFL games in HD.

    Granted my ViP722k's and my old trusty Vip622 have really kept me loyal, over the years. Being able to record 4 HD channels at the sametime, really cuts down on how many recievers I need. Single push of the remote, by default I see only channels I get, no adds in the guides, never had to time any of my DVR's by the second hand of my watch, waiting for them to do something. DVR's that understand that NOT everything has to be a recording, and have Autotune as a super useful feature. PiP, what in the world is the use of having the option to watch several games at the sametime without PiP? DLB that works automatically, don't have to push any extra buttons to turn it on, nor do I have to worry about turning DLB on everyday, DLB just works. DVR's that understand that family life is a busy life and when a show is buffered, its supposed to stay buffered, no accidental channel changes and wiping out the buffer accidently. Have over 8 TB's of storarge for my DVR's, makes for everybody having thier own personal 2TB DVR. Nothing better than having a remote that is actually clearly labled, for all the different features and having a single button that does what its supposed to do, vs having to press this button plus that button or to have to press one button twice to get a feature to work.

    Glad you like Direct. I am very happy Dish, saving hundreds a year, and getting more, with better equipment, with more features.
  11. Nov 1, 2010 #111 of 135

    Santi360HD Icon

    Oct 6, 2008
    New York City
    If that floats your boat I'm happy that your enjoying the fruit said service offers. I do not have the Baseball PPV or Sunday Ticket to my service (When I joined in 2005 originally I took Sunday Ticket subscription) and yes there are quite a few more HD's that DISH has but not alot that roll me at night wondering if the summer channel add-ons (from the rocket launch earlier) was all for naught.. Anyone's SD beats Directv's butchering of it...as for DVR's dont get me started I HAVE NEVER HAD ONE with Directv...I had such a bad taste from the years I had Time Warner's DVR that I simply have the HD NON DVR box...and have no plans to get any DVR anytime soon...nor do I care what they can now do...ive seen posts here about both provider's DVR's either having phantom recordings or problems with the HDD gee it sure sounds alot like what i went thru in my end of days with Time Warner Cable, never going thru that again...awesome that my NON DVR HD box has had ZERO issues since i got it in 2005.

    In addition boasting about beating the system by (VERY LIKELY) illegally getting NFL games for a buck (KEY WORD BEING if they're Illegal)...Well chip chip cherrrio to you for that piece of insight...I mean we've all done stuff however, that was something you could of kept under your hat...Would i try to find it on my own? probably not dont want my IP associated with all that stuff...I know people with cablevision and comcast that had to pay for the music they've downloaded when they've gotten letters from their providers...if theres ways around that now too...I dont care to know..and as for my IP yes I still have Time Warner's internet..i have a stripped down cable price of about $64 bucks to just SOLELY have the Cable Modem...and on the other TV's in my house cable line directly to the back of the TV...There are a few HD channels I can get as an alternate should any weather knock my dish out...

    each provider has its plusses & minuses...Dish was not my cup of Tea...D* has my sports fix and E* does not...and Im in a (Kid listening to his mom when he/she says ALRIGHT ALREADY) kind of attitude when i say im satisfied..Could D* give more HD choices..absoletly and so can E* you guys arent pristene by a long shot with your lineup either..

    Game on to all E* people....best of luck the rest of the way...
  12. Nov 1, 2010 #112 of 135

    mnassour Icon

    Apr 23, 2002
    Excellent AP article this morning on the background on all this from TV Newscheck:
    Good info in the article on why Dish caved...


    Full article from link.....
  13. Nov 1, 2010 #113 of 135

    KalebD AllStar

    May 8, 2007
    next, Disney HD cannels. Who's with me? :hurah:
  14. Nov 1, 2010 #114 of 135
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    I figured MSG was next.
  15. Nov 1, 2010 #115 of 135

    R DAVIS Cool Member

    Sep 30, 2008
    Any idea if or when, Dish will actually start carrying all the Fox Sports Network programming in HD ? Is any actual date being discussed ?

    I subscribe to Center Ice, and about half of the Dallas Stars games are not carried in HD, even though they ARE being broadcast in HD, and many cable companies and Direct TV are carrying them. The same is true of the Rangers and Astros games on Fox Sports SW and Fox Sports Houston. These games look just terrible in SD on my 42 inch DLP screen.

    Also, when if ever will Dish quit broadcasting in SD ? It would no doubt require new receivers for those who have only SD receivers, but I would think Dish would make a special deal, or maybe even a converter box available ? It just seems to me to be a real waste of bandwidth and or transponders to continue the SD transmissions in the long term.
  16. Nov 1, 2010 #116 of 135

    TBoneit Hall Of Fame

    Jul 27, 2006
    My guess is that there are more SD subscribers than HD subscribers. If they planned to drop SD anytime soon every receiver installed would be mpeg4 capable.
  17. Nov 1, 2010 #117 of 135
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    No hard date or even quarter was announced. It could be any time within the next few months (or not).

    The rumor is that DISH only contracted to carry a certain number of games from each carrier ... not all games that each carrier had. DISH has only set aside roo for 12 HD games at a time. I have not seen all feeds in use in a while.

    One thing for sure. It can only get better.

    The "converter box" would be replacing several million SD receivers with HD receivers. The first step would be to stop placing SD receivers. DISH still has not taken that first step (although many markets are "Eastern Arc" and all HD equipment has been provided regardless of subscription to HD).

    It will cost DISH billions of dollars to change out all the receivers. They are not in a position to do that in one fell swoop. I would like to see them start by no longer placing SD equipment. (Step 2 would be to no longer activate SD equipment not placed by DISH.)
  18. Nov 1, 2010 #118 of 135

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    Not me. If anything has been shown, it is that Disney's channels in HD aren't important to very many. The howling was relatively quiet and short lived.

    I think people finally realized that the kids don't care if the 'mouse' is in HD as long as it is on at all.

    Frankly I'll be surprised if Disney gets anything for their HD when the SD contract comes up.
  19. Nov 1, 2010 #119 of 135

    356B Icon

    Oct 11, 2008
    I agree, little kids are the watchers, :balloons: The Disney Channel could be considered a quasi baby sitter in some homes.....:new_popco HD in most cases is not the issue.... the number of responses seem to bare that out........who cares.......!pepsi!

  20. Nov 1, 2010 #120 of 135

    GrumpyBear Hall Of Fame

    Feb 1, 2006
    Except for the HD only people, haven't seen many people asking for or complaining about those Disney and ABC Family channels.

    HD only people, its kind of understandable, that they would want them back, as they don't get them period. For me, no kids in that age group, thier late evening shows, look as good in SD as they did in HD, as Disney and ABC Family were HORRIBLE waste of bandwidth for HD.

    I would prefer to see all the FOX Sports go 24/7 HD before those channels. AS the Fox Sports channels have actually HD worth watching, and you have to pay for the Multisports package seperatly, vs having it forced upon everybody.
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