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DISH Network Reports Third Quarter 2010 Financial Results

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by James Long, Nov 5, 2010.

  1. BNUMM

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    If the Pizza Hut is in SW Michigan it is because they were installing new TVs and the retailer they buy them from sells DishNetwork. I installed 1 of the dishes for them.
     
  2. James Long

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    Many of the franchises around this area have them, even into Chicago. Some McDonald's are set up for more of a coffee shop feel. Outlets at tables for a laptop, free wi-fi and TVs so one can catch up on the news or sports (or whatever the employee in charge of the remote put up on the screen).

    It is certainly better than staring at other people eating, especially if one is traveling alone. The free wi-fi has been very handy while traveling as I can usually get a signal from the parking lot. I can drive through for the food and park to use the wi-fi.

    That dispute started Oct 1st ... 4Q 2010. So there is still a chance. :lol:
     
  3. scooper

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    They have been doing those "McCafes" around here too. Our new McDonald's in Youngsville (first fast food besides Subway) is one of those style.
     
  4. tivonomo

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    Ever since McD's started pushing their McCafe they have been converting their stores to be more comfortable with WiFi's and TV's... that usually are broadcasting Fox News. :)
     
  5. James Long

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    As already stated, it depends on the franchise. CNN and ESPN seem to be the favorite stations in the McDs where I've paid attention. It isn't a corporate decision.

    BTW: Now that we've noted that many McDonald's have TVs let's get back to DISH.
     
  6. DodgerKing

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    I don't recall anyone saying they would go bankrupt. But, the FOX dispute took place during Q4 and this report is for Q3
     
  7. Richard King

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    When the split occured was when I sold my DISH stock and bought Directv stock. THAT looks like it was a good move on my part, but, the bad move was in hanging on to the Echostar stock.
    Comparison performance stock chart.
    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=...=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

    2037 ;)
     
  8. Stewart Vernon

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    I think we're just seeing more of the same old same old.

    When Dish adds subscribers but doesn't increase profit... the sky is falling!

    When Dish loses subscribers but increases profit... the sky is falling!

    The sky seems to always be falling.
     
  9. kcolg30

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    I am helping DISH and Charlie financially with my $223 per month bill...:D

    DISH will be here for a long time...:p
     
  10. DodgerKing

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    Shouldn't they be adding subscribers AND making a profit (even if profits or additions are down, but still in the positive)?

    I don't think the sky is falling, but there are issues when they have had at least three quarters in the last 2 years (and soon will be three quarters this year alone) of sub losses, when other providers are adding subs at the same time. They do need to do something to address these issue. Obviously more people find other sources more to their liking or more affordable even though Dish is supposed to be the low price alternative
     
  11. HobbyTalk

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    Or it could be the economy. It could be looked at two ways, depending how anyone wants to spin it.

    Lower income people will subscribe to Dish since they are lower cost. Maybe even these people can not afford it now.

    Or maybe the economy is really recovering and people are moving to higher priced products.

    I personally feel that Dish has positioned themselves at the lower end of the market and to those that just want a minimum of "pay" TV to supplement the network channels. Many of these subscribers, while they can afford it, always look for a lower priced alternative. Many have found a combination of Netflix, Redbox, Hulu and other on-line viewing to satisfy their needs.
     
  12. DodgerKing

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    Then Dish's agenda of pushing. "Why Pay More?" may not be that good of an idea, or shows that during tough times it may not be as good as during better times? Perhaps Dish needs to look at changing some things so they can gain subs and profit every quarter?

    I am stating this because I want Dish do succeed. Even as a Direct sub, I do not want Direct to be the only choice for satellite TV.
     
  13. lparsons21

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    It would be nice if they were adding subs and making a profit, and overall they have over the last 2 years.

    Currently it isn't 'other' providers adding subs, it is ONE provider doing that unless I've been reading bum news... :)
     
  14. DodgerKing

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    DirecTV, FiOs, and U-Verse have all added subs this past quarter
     
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    The difference between DirecTV and FIOS/Uverse is that the latter two are fairly new services, with many areas just starting to offer the service. Growth there is a given. DirecTV hasn't been a "new" service in a long time.
     
  16. DodgerKing

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    The point being is that there are providers (plural) ADDING subs, new or old. People are paying for TV, but yet Dish is losing subs. Why is this? Are these Dish subs that left simply not paying for TV at all anymore, or are they going to these providers that are gaining subs?
     
  17. lparsons21

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    In the case of FIOS/Uverse, aren't there some really good sweetheart 3-fer deals going? With a broad selection of HD channels, which isn't always the case with other cable providers? And is D* gaining subs in areas that have these new services?

    The numbers E* is losing are relatively low. This past quarters over the big increase in equipment fees most likely. Next quarters will be from mostly the Fox/RSN debacle, and I think will also be low numbers.
     
  18. DodgerKing

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    One thing Dish may have done wrong then was to no longer contract with these telecommunication companies. Whenever I go into an ATT or Verizon store, both are promoting bundling with their respective service and/or DirecTV as well
     
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    Keep in mind that Dish added 819,000 subscribers and lost 848,000 subscribers to get that 29,000 net loss.

    Relative to a bad economy, some people abandon cable altogether to save money while others come to Dish because it offers a cheap option. Also related to the economy, more people are moving because of money problems. And some come to Dish because they're angry at their current provider while some leave because they are angry at Dish. It would be interesting to see some kind of survey results in addition to raw numbers.
     
  20. Tom Robertson

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    Of course, grand slam would be to decrease costs, increase subs, increase income, thus maximizing an increase of profits.

    Then the reality being faced by all the satellite and cable companies--all the channels what more money--faster than the public will allow.

    So decreasing costs is rather limited. :)

    Which is most important? Profits are a very good thing. Congrats Dish for doing so. Hopefully (for Dish subs and investors), they will be able to increase subs and profits next quarter.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     

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