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DISH Network to give refunds, additional benefits to settle charges related to a deceptive surcharge

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Athlon646464, Apr 16, 2014.

  1. Athlon646464

    Athlon646464 Gold Members DBSTalk Gold Club

    Feb 23, 2007
    Uxbridge, MA
    DISH Network to give refunds, additional benefits to settle charges related to a deceptive surcharge, attorney general says

    DISH Network will refund about $2 million to Washington state consumers and provide additional benefits to them that could total up to $3 million for an unlawful monthly line-item surcharge.

    The Washington State Attorney General’s Office alleges that DISH began charging state consumers the surcharge in May of 2012 and collected more than $2 million from it.

    Hundreds of thousands of Washington consumers were illegally charged a dollar per month for up to eight months, said Attorney General Bob Ferguson.

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  2. tsmacro

    tsmacro Hall Of Fame

    Apr 28, 2005
    Ok so here's the final paragraph that explains why Dish was charging that surcharge: "DISH used the surcharge to recoup its increased business and occupation tax liability, Ferguson said. Unlike the sales tax, the B&O tax is considered a cost of doing business in Washington state, and businesses can’t tack it on as a line-item charge in addition to the sales price."

    So I call bull$h!t on this! Are you trying to tell me that the state of Washington is allowed to tax Dish and Dish isn't allowed to pass that cost along to it's customers who live in Washington?! Sounds like the politicians there have found a sneaky way to tax their residents and make it look like it's Dish who's trying to screw them. So basically all Dish customers subsidize this state of Washington tax because Dish isn't allowed to charge people living in that state extra because of it. Sorry but if any state government charges anything that makes doing business in their state more expensive then a company should absolutely have every right to add an additional charge to the bill for its customers in that state otherwise the cost gets passed on to all of that companies customers no matter where they live.
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  3. PokerJoker

    PokerJoker Godfather

    Apr 12, 2008
    Las Vegas
    As I recall, the sticking point is that it was added on as a line item. Dish was completely free to raise their rates to cover the B&O tax, but apparently not free to break it out as a separate charge.

    I agree, it's BS. That tax is hated by every business in WA.

  4. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    Knowing that every DISH customer in the country will need to have their bill adjusted to pay for the Washington customers doesn't exactly make me happy with the State of Washington either. :(
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  5. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    Yeah... that's the thing... IF their only other alternative is to build it into the package price, then it would have to go up for people outside that state... which means everyone else will be overcharged needlessly.

    I don't see how a state could mandate a tax on a business and also mandate "thou shalt not tell" for that tax... seems like if the business has to pay a tax, they have a right to disclose it... and putting it as a line-item on the bill should be positive for consumers because you then can see the reason for the charge AND it gives you the opportunity to contact your legislature if you want to fight it.
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  6. tsmacro

    tsmacro Hall Of Fame

    Apr 28, 2005
    I guess maybe Dish is free to charge a higher rate for its programming in Washington then? Of course that would be a pain and probably expensive having to customize prices and advertising and websites and everything else just because one state says we're going to charge you this tax and you can't pass on the cost of that tax to your customers in this state by putting a line item on the bill. Seems like that's government deliberately trying to cover-up their practices to me and ought to be illegal, someone ought to appeal this to the supreme court.

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