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Dish Network to Launch New Satellite!

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by space86, Oct 14, 2007.

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  1. pdxsam

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    All VOOM channels were converted to mpeg4 in August. Channel list http://ekb.dbstalk.com/hdchan.htm shows this.
     
  2. moman19

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    I don't think you are correct. A few transponders (for reasons that escape me) still seem to be stuck at MPEG2. See TNT, HDNet and a few others. RAVE was listed as MPEG2 a week or so ago. Not sure about that one.
     
  3. James Long

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    That is why I keep thinking there is a supply issue on encoders or something like that. There is no reason not to move the rest of the Vooms to MPEG4 since E* has dropped the $5 voom pack (grandfathered ... now no longer available).
     
  4. Stewart Vernon

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    TNT and HDNet are not Voom channels.

    All the Voom channels were converted to MPEG4 a short while back. If you go look at the EKB you will see 2 transponders each with 6 Voom channels... then one more transponder that has the remaining 3.

    Could be possible those 3 could be MPEG2, at least they would still fit... but I thought all the conversions of Voom were done.

    TNTHD, HDNet, HDNet Movies, HD Theater, HBOHD, SHOHD, and ESPNHD are still MPEG2 but those are not Voom channels. Dish will convert those channels eventually, but would have to get those remaining legacy customers to upgrade their stuff.
     
  5. texaswolf

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    ANy newson when that may be?
     
  6. Stewart Vernon

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    None that I've heard. I don't even have a guess as to how many current HD subs there might be with the "legacy" $9.99 HD pack that would have to be upgraded if they convert those to MPEG4. It will no doubt happen eventually.
     
  7. ssmith10pn

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    OK make that 20 channels then. :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol:
     
  8. rocatman

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    You are forgetting the fact that E-11's higher power output could allow Dish to reduce the error correction allowing significant greater useable bandwidth per TP. This could potentially allow Dish to put 15 or 16 SD channels per TP instead normally 12. At 16 SD channels/TP Dish could use 3 TPs for 48 SD channels instead of 4 TPs at 12 SD channels/TP. Dish could also increase the resultion on the HD channels or I dare say put 7 HD channels/TP as well.
     
  9. rocatman

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    This could also be for vacation cruise ships in the Carribean.
     
  10. James Long

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    E* is planning service to Cuba (as soon as it is permitted). E10 has spotbeams specific to Cuba as well. With most DishLatino offerings on 110° it could easily become a nice service.
     
  11. Rick_R

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    In my opinion they could drop all channels that have stretch-o-vision. Some of these channels are my favorites but I will not watch stretch-o-vision so they are worse than worthless as they nauseate me.

    Rick R
     
  12. TP715

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    Somehow I get the feeling that if everyone got their wish on what channels to drop to make more "room", the guide would end up blank- there'd be no channels left at all.

    I know that if I got my wish you guys would not have a single sports channel to watch, and if you got your wish I wouldn't have a single science/art/culture channel to watch.

    The solution isn't to drop channels- it's to launch satellites and add bandwidth.
     
  13. tsmacro

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    Well as someone who was just recently on a cruise, they sure could use some more channels!! And of all the strange things, the network channels that they broadcast were out of Denver! (things that make you go hmmmmm) It was kind of funny that a cruise ship that sailed out of NYC and was going to the Carribean had locals out of Denver. But it worked out good for us, being Colts fans and the fact that the Colts were playing the Broncos the Sunday we were on the ship. Honestly though I don't think tv channels are a big priority for cruise ships, they'd rather not give you any excuses to hang out in your cabin, they want you out and about where you have more opportunities to spend money!
     
  14. Miggity

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    I rrrrreally wish I could watch History Channel HD! But I just can't do it. Not when its chock full of asinine aspect ratios like 31:9 or whatever you want to call it when they stretch out letterbox 4:3 horizontally only... no thanks guys. Get back to me when you get your sh!t together.
     
  15. BNUMM

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    Since this is a discussion about Dish launching a new satellite, is there any new info. about the date the next sat. will be launched? I checked JPL's Space Calendar and Lyngsat and couldn't find anything definite.
     
  16. bartendress

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    Ya'll do realize that as we get closer to 02.17.09 and SD feeds become less and less relevant that those will drop making additional bandwidth available, and... before you know it...

    *Poof!!*

    E* and D* will essentially have more-or-less comparable programming and it will be back to what brought me to E*> Quality/Value of the product.

    In the meantime: At least we can sit back and watch the fireworks as E* and D* launch bird after bird. The way some would have it, Earth would have enough satellites to have rings like Saturn.
     
  17. James Long

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    02/19/2009 is not something D* and E* are looking forward to ...
    Locals all in digital with many in HD. D* will have to use as much of their spotbeam space as they can get (the problems with D10 won't help). And E* will have to figure out how to handle all of the markets they carry. E* has been pushing hard to be able to carry downconverts just to keep some signal on the air. Then there are the locals with subchannels, which take up more space on satellite.

    It is easy to take a HD feed down to 1/6th of a transponder ... but what happens when a local has two subchannels? Cut the HD down to 1/9th of a transponder and use the rest of the 1/6th for those subchannels? If the FCC requires subchannels and requires HD to be passed in all markets both carriers are in trouble!
     
  18. GrumpyBear

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    Maybe its just me, Being a PAC10 guy, but we could drop a few of the Big10 Alt HD channels, just have the Big10 and 1 Big10 Alt. Granted I still have Prime and FoxW in HD, but I could do without all the extra Big10 channels, I mean 4 Big Ten Alt HD channels is a little much.
     
  19. DIRECTV-10

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    Just an update FYI. The problems that I was having with a small portion of my spotbeam capabilities are now being worked out. There are work-arounds now being done that will have me at near full force within the next 3 months.
     
  20. BNUMM

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    Thanks for the update. Do you ever hear from and of the Echostar sats? Do the new ones ever mention an estimated launch date?
     
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