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Dish OTA EPG issues Discussion

Discussion in 'DISH™ OTA Support and Discussion Forum' started by Stewart Vernon, Sep 23, 2011.

  1. Aug 24, 2015 #61 of 113
    Stewart Vernon

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    Most of us get OTA data (whether it be on a Hopper or other Dish receivers) for just the major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, PBS, CW) and then a handful of subchannels depending on your market like AntennaTV, MeTV, and some others.

    But lots of us have gaps in OTA data, especially for sub-channels.

    IF you're getting no EPG data at all... after having your Hopper and OTA module working for a couple of days... then there is likely a problem.
     
  2. Aug 25, 2015 #62 of 113
    satcrazy

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    I'd be satisfied with local major networks ota data. My receiver is a 222K.

    The other one[ 211k] the antenna goes directly into the antenna connection.

    "Digital service" on both. :hair:

    The installer told me AFTER the install this is very common.
     
  3. Aug 25, 2015 #63 of 113
    Stewart Vernon

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    Usually the receiver needs at least an overnight update to get the EPG data fully populated on many of the Dish receivers... but if you still have a problem after that, you might have a faulty receiver.
     
  4. Aug 26, 2015 #64 of 113
    James Long

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    Also check my website http://uplink.jameslong.name/locallist.htmland see what data DISH is sending. If the channel is not on the list you will not get EPG.

    (Noting that 129 Sinclair channels have recently been removed from the list.)
     
  5. Aug 27, 2015 #65 of 113
    satcrazy

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    Thanks James, it shows I get these on WA 129 sat. [ which I did]

    Since I had to go to EA [ LOS issue] I'm without 129. So, that's why I don't get the guide I guess???

    If I got 129 with EA I wouldn't need the OTA module. So why was I told by a CSR that would help me?
     
  6. Aug 27, 2015 #66 of 113
    James Long

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    You should still get the OTA guide for the listed channels regardless of what arc you are on. My market is Eastern Arc with the special OTA channels listed on Western Arc and guide data comes.
     
  7. Sep 1, 2015 #67 of 113
    Jhon69

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    For all of those who need OTA data for channels there is www.titantv.com
     
  8. Jan 21, 2017 #68 of 113
    pjs344

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    I was hoping to see most of my local Las Vegas, NV sub channels listed on Dish's ota uplink list and to be surprised that Dish actually has fewer ota sub channels then DTV. The weird thing is DTV dumped ota back in 2012 and Dish did not. So why is Dish lacking here? It would have been a plus to for me to switch to Dish if Dish had most the sub listings for the Las Vegas locals. O'well I guess Dish does not see ota as being that important to keep it up to date and hope to gain subscribers with it since DTV dumped ota. Not sure how Tivo, Tablo and other fare with local sub listings and there all about locals?
     
  9. Jan 21, 2017 #69 of 113
    RBA

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    Is DISH a SATELLITE delivery company or an OTA provider? DISH tries to deliver the 4 major networks along with the satellite programming. If you want OTA invest in an OTA system.
     
  10. Jan 21, 2017 #70 of 113
    JosephB

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    Then why do they sell OTA tuners for multiple series of receivers and why are they about to release a new updated tuner for the Hopper? That argument works great for DirecTV who doesn't sell an OTA tuner anymore and doesn't seem to want to get back into it, but Dish has always supported OTA integration much more than anyone else (except maybe TiVo) and they are using this functionality along with skinny bundles to allow folks to subscribe to pay TV without paying for locals. If they're going to go down this road, they should get serious about it.
     
  11. Jan 22, 2017 #71 of 113
    James Long

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    DISH is a content delivery company. Their content includes OTA channels (delivered via satellite) as well as EPG data for OTA channels (EPG delivered via satellite for video received OTA). They also provide limited content to their receivers over the Internet (including video channels and other content).

    The primary service is via satellite ... but as noted, DISH leases and sells receivers capable of OTA reception and sells modules for receivers to add OTA reception. Delivery of the EPG for those channels is part of their support of the reception of those channels.

    Reception of any OTA channel the receiver can see is supported. EPG for every channel and subchannel is not.
     
  12. Jan 10, 2018 #72 of 113
    bnewt

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    Could someone explain the following issue:

    I have 2 HWS, both have the single usb tuner. I have the ota antenna connected to each. Each is able to receive all of the ota locals including the sub channels. All sub channels except for 1. It is a KET channel that has 3 channels in total (68.1, 68.2 & 68.3) Both HWS get 68.01 & 68.02 easily. On 68.3 it comes up like it is going to tune in with the channel description, time, etc, but it never gets a picture or sound. It is always a black screen. I think it has to be something related to that specific sub channel only. The signal strength indicator says 100%.

    Anyone got any ideas?
     
  13. Jan 10, 2018 #73 of 113
    FarmerBob

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    Try this to find where your stations are and see if your antenna isn't a "tad" off. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ennaweb.org/&usg=AOvVaw11-6j559HHoUUfbELOPzgx
     
  14. Jan 11, 2018 #74 of 113
    bnewt

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    I don't understand how that would help. If I am already receiving the main channel & 1 sub-channel, how will moving the antenna help to receive the 2nd sub channel. If I wasn't receiving any of the channels I could understand.........

    I was leaning more to some broadcast setting on this one sub channel that may be slightly different. It comes in perfectly on the televisions and an the old ota dvr sold by dish years ago, just not on the HWS.
     
  15. Jan 11, 2018 #75 of 113
    James Long

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    The station may not be giving that sub-channel enough bandwidth. I agree that reception of the station would not change by subchannel ... it is all one big data feed per station. The local station is doing something to that subchannel that the HWS doesn't understand.
     
  16. Jan 12, 2018 #76 of 113
    Jim5506

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    If you are receiving one channel on a frequency, you are receiving them all.

    ATSC channels and subchannels are all carried in the same RF signal.

    If one channel is not decoding. the problem is at the station.

    Give them a call, perhaps they are only transmitting a blank channel.
     
  17. Jan 13, 2018 #77 of 113
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    Could you please add WMFD 068-01 to your list of OTA guide issues? (if you are still tracking this issue, and if WMFD was not already on your list) We are at the outer fringe of the Cleveland DMA, so you may not receive our station OTA where you are, but you would receive WMFD via satellite on Dish channel 012-00 (SD and HD) with the proper guide information. At some point (long before this thread was started, and this is an old thread) the link to map the satellite-delivered guide data to the OTA channel was broken, and it has never been fixed, even though Dish still uplinks the guide data.
     
  18. Jan 14, 2018 #78 of 113
    James Long

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    WMFD Mansfield ... The DISH receiver is looking for a station transmitting TSID 08F1 (2289 decimal) - which is correct according to the FCC. The station (according to RabbitEars.info) is transmitting TSID 0001. The station needs to correct the error on their transmitter.
     
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  19. Jan 14, 2018 #79 of 113
    crodrules

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    Thank you for this information. I will pass this along to my contact, and come back here to update if the problem gets fixed. :thumbsup:
     
  20. Jan 18, 2018 #80 of 113
    Michael P

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    I can't get WMFD as an OTA signal, it's the only station in my DMA that I can't receive. (I live in the middle of the Cleveland "antenna farm" and also get WKBN from the Youngstown DMA, but that excellent signal is going bye-bye in the repack :( ).
     

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