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Dish Question - What should i do?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Old_School, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. ts7

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    Which might explain how the problem happened in the first place. Once you deviate from the rules it is hard to draw the line later.

    I also question if the OP was fairly compensated. Sure, he has what he needs but didn't he purchase everything out of pocket with the intent to eventually take it when he moved? If so, what happens to the neighbor when he moves? Does the equipment belong to the OP? IMHO the new equipment should have been provided free of charge AND the OP compensated for his investment in the equipment that was removed, not to mention a little extra for his trouble.
     
  2. samrs

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    Thats kind of rude.
    I work for an HSP and wouldn't use green labeled splitters to parallel two SWM16s, and not because of anything I read here. We carry duel power passing splitters and there might be some expanders in the warehouse. I gave the only one I had to another tech a few months back. In our training room there are various combinations of dishes, switchs and splitters on the walls. They all meet directvs specs.
     
  3. samrs

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    Read post number 15.
     
  4. HoTat2

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    Apologies;

    There was absolutely no intent on my part to be rude. I was merely trying to suggest that as an HSP, they perhaps have more latitude or flexibility in such custom installs to do things which DIRECTV's unreasonably strict official guidelines do not permit.

    However, after rethinking the issue I think my suggestion is irrelevant now, since IIRC it is not paralleling the SWiM-16s through power pass splitters which is against D* policy, but cascading one off the other's legacy ports that is.

    Again sorry.
     
  5. veryoldschool

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    Time to update your "thoughts":
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  6. P Smith

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    It is Expensive, the E2...
     
  7. veryoldschool

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    It only makes "some sense" when you don't have a lot of space.
     
  8. HoTat2

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    Yea ... I know, don't rub it in. :) :eek:

    Its the cascading off the legacy ports that's out of bounds for DIRECTV as I explained in my previous post.
     
  9. veryoldschool

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    "But" with a SWiM-32 cascading [once] is approved.
    The legacy ports of the -16 are around 10 dB lower.
     
  10. HoTat2

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    Wonder what the cascade drop is on the SWiM-32 then ...
     
  11. gov

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    Less than a SWiM 64 ??


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  12. veryoldschool

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    About 1 dB.
    The -32 is made by a different manufacturer than the -16.
    Since it has to feed four SWiM sections, it looks like it may have an amp in the input stage, as it also has a lower max input level [around -25 dBm].
     
  13. Old_School

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    That's exactly how its hooked up, even with skywalkers.. looks like we had a senior tech that knows his stuff....

    Only question i have is with that setup, say a year from now they decide to move, use movers connection and when gathering up there boxes take the PI with them thinking they need it.. Will i then have issues? My understanding it it wont matter.. but, if it would it is possible to have the PI's located in the basement hooked to a common outlet that way nobody looses tv.
     
  14. veryoldschool

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    The beauty of this setup is power can be removed from either SWiM-16, and not affect the other.
     
  15. b52pooh

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    Only one comment to make. In the future, if a service call is required to align the dish, or repair connectors in the dish, who pays for it? Upstairs or downstairs?
     
  16. P Smith

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    Who will call :).
     
  17. Bill Broderick

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    That's why the power passing splitters were necessary. Either SWM-16 can control the dish, regardless of whether the other SWM-16 is powered on (or is even installed) or not.

    If regular green label splitters were used, the your concern would be a valid one.

    I'm glad that this situation was successfully handled to everyone's satisfaction. It would suck to be in a feud with your neighbors over TV reception.
     
  18. HoTat2

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    And if Solid Signal's description of the E2 expander is correct (note descriptions in red), then I guess its good it wasn't used since it would essentially suffer the same drawback as using single port power passing splitters.

    http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...-DIRECTV-SWM-EXPAND-(SWM-E2)&sku=609465599052
     
  19. veryoldschool

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    One thing you might notice is there isn't any DirecTV logo, or mention of DirecTV approved with this item. ;)
     
  20. ts7

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    Samrs, sorry if you took offense at my post. I was referring to anyone that deviates from the guidelines/rules as a matter of practice whether it is a HSP, DirecTV employee, an electrician, the landlord, etc.
     

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