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Dish Retrans Dispute with Fox over 50% Hike (Closed Thread)

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by RasputinAXP, Sep 9, 2010.

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  1. Oct 8, 2010 #881 of 2032
    festivus

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    Very nice. If that's true then this is true:

    Myth: If broadcasters like Fox receive fair value for the programming provided to TV providers, they should not have to raise rates on those providers.

    Fact: Fox is a successful, profitable business (thanks in part to the money they already charge TV providers to broadcast programming). But they're so greedy that they feel the need to raise rates even during rough economic times. Being successful and profitable is not enough for some companies.
     
  2. Oct 8, 2010 #882 of 2032
    MysteryMan

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    Quote by Gorden Gekko: "I once said greed is good. Now it seems it's legal!"
     
  3. Oct 8, 2010 #883 of 2032
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    The shopping channels reduce your monthly bill as they pay the provider to broadcast
     
  4. Oct 8, 2010 #884 of 2032
    DodgerKing

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    These two channels are under a different agreement and have nothing to do with the current channels in the dispute
     
  5. Oct 8, 2010 #885 of 2032
    DodgerKing

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    Since FS West was removed, if a Dish sub in the LA market (FS West market) wanted to watch the Kings, could they do so on CI through the FS West feed?

    Asking because a colleague has Dish and is a huge Kings fan. He wants to know if he will be able to watch the Kings if he gets CI
     
  6. Oct 8, 2010 #886 of 2032
    garn9173

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    same goes for the God squad channels as well.
     
  7. Oct 8, 2010 #887 of 2032
    Greg Bimson

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    What?

    Fox "should not have to raise rates on those providers?". Fox shouldn't "raise rates even during rough economic times?" Dish raised rates to subscribers during the recession. They've raised rates this year, twice if one counts the new receiver fees.
     
  8. Oct 8, 2010 #888 of 2032
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    Nope. Kings would be blacked out.
     
  9. Oct 8, 2010 #889 of 2032
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    If that "Highly rated programming" were desired by the 4 Million customers they would have AT250 instead of AT120.

    Not to mention that the same argument could be applied to all the other channels in AT250 that aren't in AT120.

    As far as the highly rated Fox programming on those channels? I didn't watch any of them this summer whereas I did watch USA channel and once or twice TNT. They may be desirable programming in Foxes mind, not to me however.
     
  10. Oct 8, 2010 #890 of 2032
    TBoneit

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    You think DirecTV doesn't do that all the time then you need to read all the complaints posted by former DirecTV customers that had their bank accounts dinged.

    I'll go one better, I've seen many complaints against DirecTV from non subscribers who had their cards or checking dinged. All because they did someone a favor by paying one bill for them. D* keeps all the payment info that was ever used and will take the money from whoever has it when they are owed.

    And you did give them that right as DirecTV is quick to point out when you signed up.
     
  11. Oct 8, 2010 #891 of 2032
    grog

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    Well in the end we decided to jump ship.

    At first I thought we could just wait and see how things so but my wife does not want to miss the games. So....

    Ordered DirecTV and install will be next Friday.

    Email confirms the commitment:

    Your installer will arrive between 8:00 AM - 12:00 PM on Friday, October 15, 2010.

    It may be of interest that DirecTV normally can schedule installs in 24 to 48 hours from the order. That was on their FAQ's.

    So I asked why so long....

    The answer was 'We are right now flooded with customers moving from Dish to DirecTV due to loss of their sports packages'.

    Got all the sports packages my wife wanted including 'NFL SUNDAY TICKET'.

    YOUR EQUIPMENT SELECTION
    2 DIRECTV Plus® HD DVR $398.00
    2 DIRECTV® HD Receiver $198.00
    1 DIRECTV® Slimline Dish $0.00
    1 Instant Rebate -$100.00
    1 Instant Rebate -$199.00
    Equipment Total $297.00

    Was with Dish for many years but with time things change. :)

    Will need to call Dish to start the equipment removal process. I am way passed any commitment dates by a long shot.
     
  12. Oct 8, 2010 #892 of 2032
    Hoosier205

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    Did you get Whole-Home DVR (MRV) as well?
     
  13. Oct 8, 2010 #893 of 2032
    sigma1914

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    FX was the 10th highest cable network of 2009.
     
  14. Oct 8, 2010 #894 of 2032
    Stewart Vernon

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    Yeah, that's insanely absurd... One could just as easily say "FOX is a succesful and profitable business (thanks in part to the money they already charge companies like Dish for content they provide free over the air). It can surely afford to do business at the current rates and not unfairly ask viewers to pay more for the same programming".
     
  15. Oct 8, 2010 #895 of 2032
    Hoosier205

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    I can also understand why they are trying to get more money as well. Any successful business will do the same. Both content and service providers have seen various revenue streams struggle. Fox does significant business with advertising on their networks. I'm betting that it isn't bringing in the same rate of dough as it was several years ago. If they are in a position to ask for more, I'm not surprised that they are. We also have to remember that their COO (Chase Carey) knows the provider side of the business very, very well.
     
  16. Oct 8, 2010 #896 of 2032
    grog

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    Yes indeed. I know I only needed on DVR as the others can record as well using the Whole-Home-DVR Service but for the price... why not.. The lease is the same for DVR and non-DVR's. $5.00 for each additional receiver. So $15.00 a month for my equipment rental.

    • NFL SUNDAY TICKET 2010
    • ESPN GamePlan 2010
    • NBA LEAGUE PASS 2010-11
    • ESPN Full Court 2010-11
    • HD Access
    • DVR Service
    • DIRECTV Whole-Home DVR Service
    • DIRECTV HD EXTRA PACK
    • NFL SUNDAY TICKET To-Go 2010
    • DIRECTV on DEMAND
    • PREMIER

     
  17. Oct 8, 2010 #897 of 2032
    Joe Diver

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    My experience switching to DirecTV was the same. This morning when I called to cancel Dish, she had to go through her spiel trying to keep me, and actually said "we expect our subscribers to stand with us against Fox"....oh man....while she was processing the cancellation, there was a period of a few minutes when she wasn't talking and I could hear through the clamor in the background of all the other CSR's...and there were lots of "we anticipate getting Fox Sports back soon"...and "if you can just wait a little longer"...."we're sorry you're leaving Dish"....it was very busy indeed.

    I also noticed this morning...the DirecTV installer was across the street replacing Dish on my neighbor's house.
     
  18. Oct 8, 2010 #898 of 2032
    Hoosier205

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    That's good. The more DVR's you have...the more capacity. You loaded up on the sports packages! Congratulations. While I hope this situation is resolved for Dish customers soon (lord knows it could be coming our way next), we look forward to seeing you in the DirecTV forums.
     
  19. Oct 8, 2010 #899 of 2032
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    I snipped a bit.

    Their answer on the delay in installation may or may not be true, just a bit ago they were having this same problem, but then it was equipment shortages. I don't blame them for using this as a reason, it gives the impression that tons of people are changing over, even if that isn't the case.

    But you are changing for the right reason, imo. You want the sports. That makes sense to me.

    Good luck and I hope you enjoy them.
     
  20. Oct 8, 2010 #900 of 2032
    grog

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    We thought about the change and it was not an easy one.

    The thing is I really see Dish and DirecTV offerings are to different target groups and there is nothing wrong with that.

    Dish should be known as the best entertainment network for movies. Dish should also carry the crown for those who want basic service without all the baggage.

    DirectTV should be the one stop sports authority.

    I can live with that reality. :)

     
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